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U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, Americans have much larger and more comfortable homes than Europeans. Americans have big garages to stockpile supplies, which means less trips to the store. Very few people use public transportation regularly. Most people have private back yards. Many more meals are take-out or drive-thru. More Americans use e-commerce for shopping than Europeans. In Europe by contrast, much more of life revolves a…

I mean there was literally a guy on the post from yesterday talking about how we're all paranoid and he's going to enjoy "exploring Boston and eating out while the lines are short".

Thats probably the attitude that spreads it, yes. But that doesn't change a massivie amount of Americans don't live in these hotspots.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#152
Important updates:

a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1].

b) This does not apply to cargo[2].

It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2.

[1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting....

[2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, Americans have much larger and more comfortable homes than Europeans. Americans have big garages to stockpile supplies, which means less trips to the store. Very few people use public transportation regularly. Most people have private back yards. Many more meals are take-out or drive-thru. More Americans use e-commerce for shopping than Europeans. In Europe by contrast, much more of life revolves a…

I mean there was literally a guy on the post from yesterday talking about how we're all paranoid and he's going to enjoy "exploring Boston and eating out while the lines are short".

Yeah some people are going to take advantage of cheap flights and small crowds. The thinner crowds is the point though. it still achieves the objective of lowering the R value.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#154
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Regardless of the ability of people to travel to the UK or Canada and get here (which people have done for a long time with other nations we don't take kindly to) it's absolutely going to reduce the number of people who will travel across the pond. Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. My concern is how economies are going to respond to the US being cut off from Continental ports for a month, which as far as I c…

> Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. There are tens of thousands of incubating cases in the United States already. How exactly is a few dozen sick passengers per day going to affect that at all? You'd have to literally be picking up and flying in planes full of active cases to even match what we have here already. This is insanity. No one with any expertise at all recommended it. No one serious thinks this is…

It's security theater, just like airport security screening. The politicians need to be seen doing something.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#155

Regardless of the ability of people to travel to the UK or Canada and get here (which people have done for a long time with other nations we don't take kindly to) it's absolutely going to reduce the number of people who will travel across the pond. Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. My concern is how economies are going to respond to the US being cut off from Continental ports for a month, which as far as I c…

I don't know about the actual economy but finance seems to hate this. Most open market indicators dropped by like 3%...

Equities markets don't like it.

The last couple of weeks have been very profitable for "finance".

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#156

Regardless of the ability of people to travel to the UK or Canada and get here (which people have done for a long time with other nations we don't take kindly to) it's absolutely going to reduce the number of people who will travel across the pond. Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. My concern is how economies are going to respond to the US being cut off from Continental ports for a month, which as far as I c…

>Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. Based on the localized infection cases I see across the US and have been watching as well as the characteristics of the virus (life outside host/on surfaces, in air, the degree of asymptomatic transference, etc.), it's well beyond containment IMHO. Travel isn't going to do too much to reduce infection rates alone. We need significant cultural changes to reduce infection rat…

There were just 2 cases detected at the gym down the street from me. I'm in a medium town of about 40k in upstate NY. Not podunk, but hardly bustling.

I'm considering the USA fully seeded at this point.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#158

This is insane. What are the chances of this happening for Asia? I'm currently in Asia and it would be unfortunate to not be able to return home.

US is closer in blood to Europe and it shut down travel form Europe. Asia would be an easy/quick call for this administration.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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(In the USA) Is this going to accomplish anything? The virus is already here and has been spreading out-of-control for quite a while now. The only reason the numbers are still so low here is the incredibly low number of tests being done.

Deaths are also much lower in the US.
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