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U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#81

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More like closing the gate so the coyotes don't keep attacking your cows.

Except there are already dozens of coyotes inside the fence.

If you had to fight 5 coyotes or 10, which would you choose?

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#82
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I see in some places it says this includes cargo / shipping. Is that true?

Watched the broadcast live, yes it includes cargo shipments. Something tells me the markets are going to react badly to that one

S&P 500 Futures are already down 3%

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#83
post #36

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Just because he can’t anticipate the repercussions doesn’t mean it wasn’t politically motivated

Do you really think some moron bumbled his way into the most powerful office in the world? Have you stopped to think about how unlikely something like that is? You may not agree with his style (I don't) or his personality (hate it) but the guy has to be minimally intelligent to make it as far as he has. At the very least he knows how to work a crowd and spot opportunity.

> Do you really think some moron bumbled his way into the most powerful office in the world?

Yes, and in light of anecdotes of how decisions are made in the current administration: double yes

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like closing the gate so the coyotes don't keep attacking your cows.

Except there are already dozens of coyotes inside the fence.

might as well let them all in right

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#85
post #4

I see in some places it says this includes cargo / shipping. Is that true?

Watched the broadcast live, yes it includes cargo shipments. Something tells me the markets are going to react badly to that one

This isn't just about COVID-19. This is economic warfare.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#87
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I get that they excluded the UK for diplomatic reasons, but it's literally only a few days behind the rest of Europe in terms of infection count, which means this will have almost no effect. I actually think banning travel from China months ago was a good call, but by analogous reasoning, the right time to ban travel from Europe (including the UK) was last week.

The reason the UK is behind continental Europe is the lack of testing. Their numbers are no worse than continental Europe (excluding Italy, of course). The US, on the other hand, are lightyears behind Europe on testing, the real number of infections is closer to 5000 than to 1250, again bringing it in line with the rest of Europe.

Actually the UK has done a lot more testing than many other countries, more than double the rate of France, and 4x of Japan -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/

I don't know where you get that info from but it is severely outdated or just outright wrong.

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#88
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post #32

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The situation in Europe will be much worse a month from now than it is today, unfortunately. I'd bet on this ban lasting closer to 90 days than 30.

I'm not sure where this level of panic is coming from. Numbers are about to spike everywhere pretty much no matter what anybody does, because better testing and funding has become available. Quarantining an entire continent, and even worse than this badly doing it, seems to be an astonishing overreaction. The average age of death for coronavirus victims is 83. The mortality rate seems to be as low as 0.6% in South Ko…

Exponential growth doesn't seem like a problem, until it is. A primary concern is reducing peak load on medical services.

https://www.flattenthecurve.com/

Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#89
post #17

I get that they excluded the UK for diplomatic reasons, but it's literally only a few days behind the rest of Europe in terms of infection count, which means this will have almost no effect. I actually think banning travel from China months ago was a good call, but by analogous reasoning, the right time to ban travel from Europe (including the UK) was last week.

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Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

#90

This is insane. What are the chances of this happening for Asia? I'm currently in Asia and it would be unfortunate to not be able to return home.

We're okay for now. Im in SE asia and i think im in an okay place to wait things out if necessary.

I don't see them restricting the rest of asia specifically unless they close it ALL down.

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