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U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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Post by roywiggins »

nugget wrote: post #32
unlinked_dll wrote: post #30

Regardless of the ability of people to travel to the UK or Canada and get here (which people have done for a long time with other nations we don't take kindly to) it's absolutely going to reduce the number of people who will travel across the pond. Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. My concern is how economies are going to respond to the US being cut off from Continental ports for a month, which as far as I c…

The situation in Europe will be much worse a month from now than it is today, unfortunately. I'd bet on this ban lasting closer to 90 days than 30.

The situation here will be much worse in 30 days, too.

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Post by doubleunplussed »

guerrilla wrote: post #41
unlinked_dll wrote: post #30

Regardless of the ability of people to travel to the UK or Canada and get here (which people have done for a long time with other nations we don't take kindly to) it's absolutely going to reduce the number of people who will travel across the pond. Which is the goal, reduce infection rates. My concern is how economies are going to respond to the US being cut off from Continental ports for a month, which as far as I c…

I don't know about the actual economy but finance seems to hate this. Most open market indicators dropped by like 3%...

After dropping almost 5% today. Yikes.

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Post by sitkack »

Scoundreller wrote: post #19

Meanwhile, the US Dept of State's Travel Advisories haven't really been recommending any restrictions on travel to Europe. France is the 2nd most impacted country in Europe, and the DoS' last update was 11 months ago where their primary concern was terrorism. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/... Only Italy is currently at "Reconsider Travel" or "Do Not Travel" for the Northern regions.

At least they are consistent. Following at a far enough distance gives you 20/20 hindsight for those you follow, but only if you can internalize the lesson fast enough. Otherwise you just slo-mo replicate their same mistakes.

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Post by zbraniecki »

refurb wrote: post #13
halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #5

Seems like this is too little too late, cats already out of the bag in the US.

It's all about flattening the curve at this point. You can do your best to identify those infected and have them self-quarantine, but if the gates are open and infected people are streaming into your country, you're not going to get far.

Ugh, USA is at the moment likely on level with Europe.

The idea that this will prevent "infected people streaming into USA" is uninformed. This step limits transfer both ways, between two regions that both have similar level of infection spread.

It may help both sides contain the virus, but it won't limit the amount of infected people in the USA on its own.

Please, be careful about the language you use, the way you wrote the sentence promotes FUD.

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Post by ceejayoz »

allovernow wrote: post #44
mvid wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because he can’t anticipate the repercussions doesn’t mean it wasn’t politically motivated

Do you really think some moron bumbled his way into the most powerful office in the world? Have you stopped to think about how unlikely something like that is? You may not agree with his style (I don't) or his personality (hate it) but the guy has to be minimally intelligent to make it as far as he has. At the very least he knows how to work a crowd and spot opportunity.

It's entirely possible to have a charismatic moron. Political instincts and intelligence aren't the same thing.

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Post by predakanga »

starpilot wrote: post #24

Does this mean with a round trip, you could be allowed to fly to Europe and be trapped there? Edit: apparently not, looks like it just applies to foreign nationals https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting...

In my experience, airports have been pretty good about checking for potential issues like that and warning passengers at check-in.

That experience doesn't include American airports though, so YMMV.

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Post by olliej »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #5

Seems like this is too little too late, cats already out of the bag in the US.

As others have commented the goal at this point is curve flattening.

What is "flattening" in this case? it's attempting to limit the peak concurrent cases. There will likely not be a hugely significant reduction in total cases, but that isn't the goal.

The reason this is important is because no matter where you are, healthcare systems have a finite limit to the number of people they can treat at once, and if you exceed that you'll get a massive increase in mortality - both due to "survivable". cases not being treated, as well as unrelated medical events that don't get treated because there isn't capacity, e.g. you have a stroke, but there's no ED or ICU beds available.

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