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Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by u10 »

allovernow wrote: post #75
throwawa_54321 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this kind of comment allowed on HN? I see no difference between this and a comment a person paid by some government/organisation hostile to China would write. This person is spewing nationalistic hate without any sources and arguments. Almost nothing in the comment is falsifiable. Can dang elaborate on this issue? Are comments of this kind usually removed or not? I'm thinking of writing a browser extension whi…

This was all verifiable in real time and is consistent with the behavior of authoritarian regimes. You want to pretend China isn't interning Uigurs as well? Hell, that doctor whistleblower who ended up dead from the virus was officially "admonished" and forced to publicaly apologize for "spreading rumors". The world isn't the Disney movie land that most Americans grew up. Plenty of organized evil exists throughout th…

Trying to claim that the United States has some moral high ground above China is laughable. China has certainly committed plenty of human rights violations, but so have plenty of Western nations.

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by jcims »

zkms wrote: post #54

This is the cruel and predictable result of a society that has meticulously and senselessly offshored/outsourced most its industrial capacity. If your country can't manufacture, from raw materials , all the electrical/electronic/mechanical components, the tooling, the equipment, and the chemicals (industrial and pharmaceutical alike) it needs to keep everything running, you're dependent on these hyper-fragile and con…

It doesn't have to be (and likely wasn't) intentional. Economic pressure will twist gravity towards specialization and supply chain consolidation. You need meticulous surveillance and testing combined with authoritative regulatory control to counteract these pressures and maintain a resilient supply chain (which doesn't necessarily need to be in-country).

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by powowowow »

zkms wrote: post #54

This is the cruel and predictable result of a society that has meticulously and senselessly offshored/outsourced most its industrial capacity. If your country can't manufacture, from raw materials , all the electrical/electronic/mechanical components, the tooling, the equipment, and the chemicals (industrial and pharmaceutical alike) it needs to keep everything running, you're dependent on these hyper-fragile and con…

The supply chains that you rail against have successfully delivered the greatest levels of prosperity to the largest number of humans in all of history.

They were created not by some mysterious force, but by individuals making rational choices about how they want to allocate their time, their energy and their resources.

The "suicidal deindustrialization" you refer to is the result of people making informed choices that you happen to disagree with. They didn't want a $400 locally knitted sweater, made from neighborhood sheep. They wanted a $40 sweater that was made as efficiently as possible, and $360 of change.

Please don't mistake your belief that you could design a better society for an actual analysis of reality.

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by kyleee »

u10 wrote: post #81
allovernow wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was all verifiable in real time and is consistent with the behavior of authoritarian regimes. You want to pretend China isn't interning Uigurs as well? Hell, that doctor whistleblower who ended up dead from the virus was officially "admonished" and forced to publicaly apologize for "spreading rumors". The world isn't the Disney movie land that most Americans grew up. Plenty of organized evil exists throughout th…

Trying to claim that the United States has some moral high ground above China is laughable. China has certainly committed plenty of human rights violations, but so have plenty of Western nations.

Who made that claim?

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by dugditches »

zkms wrote: post #54

This is the cruel and predictable result of a society that has meticulously and senselessly offshored/outsourced most its industrial capacity. If your country can't manufacture, from raw materials , all the electrical/electronic/mechanical components, the tooling, the equipment, and the chemicals (industrial and pharmaceutical alike) it needs to keep everything running, you're dependent on these hyper-fragile and con…

What happens when you can manufacture from raw materials, but your raws themselves come from offshore?

There is still lots of manufacturing of high quality here. However they're costly and smaller in scale versus overseas.

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by jcims »

powowowow wrote: post #84
zkms wrote: post #54

This is the cruel and predictable result of a society that has meticulously and senselessly offshored/outsourced most its industrial capacity. If your country can't manufacture, from raw materials , all the electrical/electronic/mechanical components, the tooling, the equipment, and the chemicals (industrial and pharmaceutical alike) it needs to keep everything running, you're dependent on these hyper-fragile and con…

The supply chains that you rail against have successfully delivered the greatest levels of prosperity to the largest number of humans in all of history. They were created not by some mysterious force, but by individuals making rational choices about how they want to allocate their time, their energy and their resources. The "suicidal deindustrialization" you refer to is the result of people making informed choices th…

Edit: edit. Much better take.

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by londons_explore »

wcoenen wrote: post #28
listsfrin wrote: post #13

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I waited a whole month for a Macbook Pro with 256 RAM. Before the "crisis". The apocalypse is near.

But the maximum is 64GB RAM? https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/

Not 256 G of RAM... Just 256 RAM. I bet the delay is they're having trouble getting it to boot...

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by tubbs »

bdcravens wrote: post #80
throw20190125 wrote: post #40

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I have nothing against you, but I wish more people would get burn by the sms 2fa without backup/alternatives. Maybe at some point we will realize that it's a terrible idea.

I actually agree with you. Aside from apps that don't offer anything other than SMS 2FA, I always opt for TOTP-based 2FA. However, one compromise I've made is with Authy: they back up your saved config, but you must SMS verify (or have it installed on a 2nd device to verify a new device)

If you're comfortable with a paid option, consider StandardNotes' TokenVault: https://standardnotes.org/extensions/tokenvault

Re: Coronavirus has disrupted supply chains for nearly 75% of U.S. companies

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Post by TheFiend7 »

powowowow wrote: post #84
zkms wrote: post #54

This is the cruel and predictable result of a society that has meticulously and senselessly offshored/outsourced most its industrial capacity. If your country can't manufacture, from raw materials , all the electrical/electronic/mechanical components, the tooling, the equipment, and the chemicals (industrial and pharmaceutical alike) it needs to keep everything running, you're dependent on these hyper-fragile and con…

The supply chains that you rail against have successfully delivered the greatest levels of prosperity to the largest number of humans in all of history. They were created not by some mysterious force, but by individuals making rational choices about how they want to allocate their time, their energy and their resources. The "suicidal deindustrialization" you refer to is the result of people making informed choices th…

Honestly you're coming off far more extremist than OP is.

OP's just arguing that in times of strife, we could potentially suffer because of a lack of self-reliance. He has a valid point, and should another even worse and longer lasting zoonotic(or any kind) disease spur up again, do you honestly think it's a good idea to make no steps towards developing emergency self-reliance systems in case of catastrophe? What about in times of war even, or other conflicts from upstream suppliers?

You're kinda putting words in OP's mouth and coming off as somewhat naive.

EDIT: Wow you really changed the tone and content of your comment. I'm glad you recognized the flaws in what you were saying and adjusted it, but I'm also semi concerned your original comment is your actual opinion on the matter.

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