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Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by inciampati »

scaglio wrote: post #8

Italian here, north-west. Media are really exaggerating with the situation with daily life and routine, we are allowed to take a walk and go to bars or restaurants if there is one meter of distance between people. The real problem is in the hospitals, and for some enterprises who will really have a loss in these weeks (everything about tourism, for example). One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed…

The risk is that this lockdown isn't sufficient to modify the progression of the epidemic. Then it will probably have to be modified.

Presumably, most transmission is happening in social settings and closed environments. These measures should mitigate that. The change in social behavior would suggest it's working. We'll find out in five days or so if this is working.

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by phonypc »

magicsmoke wrote: post #5
vorpalhex wrote: post #2

A lockdown is obviously not an enjoyable thing, but it is necessary to flatten the curve [^1] and it's downsides are less severe then it's benefits if done correctly. Keep this in mind as the situation continues to evolve. Stock things in your house which bring you joy (good food, games, good books) and do your best to spread confidence to others around you. If you have enough space to get in some exercise, even if i…

Imagine if steam takes advantage of this to have a coronavirus sale. 50% off all zombie themed games for the coming month.

I think if they just did zombie games it could be construed as making light of the situation and get them some backlash. Broader discounts and some signalling that the intent is to encourage people to stay inside more might work though.

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by dysosmia »

magicsmoke wrote: post #5
vorpalhex wrote: post #2

A lockdown is obviously not an enjoyable thing, but it is necessary to flatten the curve [^1] and it's downsides are less severe then it's benefits if done correctly. Keep this in mind as the situation continues to evolve. Stock things in your house which bring you joy (good food, games, good books) and do your best to spread confidence to others around you. If you have enough space to get in some exercise, even if i…

Imagine if steam takes advantage of this to have a coronavirus sale. 50% off all zombie themed games for the coming month.

It would probably be in bad taste to theme it so...on the nose, but I'd believe that it's a good time to be releasing a fresh game right now. It's certainly a terrible time for games in development, with work collaboration maybe disrupted and with all the big publicity events getting cancelled, and it's a bad time for other media that bank a lot on physical releases (e.g. theatrical releases for movies getting pushed back), but the at-home media out now could find an audience with more time than they otherwise might have.

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by jaclaz »

umvi wrote: post #4
jaclaz wrote: post #3

As a side note, maybe the single restaurant manager interviewed does normally that, but it is highly unusual that a restaurant manager hugs and/or kisses (or even shakes hands) with a customer of the restaurant. There is this sort of folklore about Italy that everyone kisses and hugs everyone else. This is simply not accurate. If you are introduced to someone (a stranger), it is normal courtesy to shake hands with hi…

> If you are introduced to someone (a stranger), it is normal courtesy to shake hands with him/her (and that's it, no hugs, no kisses) Are you sure you aren't extending the culture of northern Italy to all of Italy? When I lived in Rome/Naples, it seemed like with almost everyone I met we shook hands and did the "air kisses" (not a real kiss but you still lean in close and touch cheeks). It didn't ever happen to me w…

>Are you sure you aren't extending the culture of northern Italy to all of Italy?

Yes, I am pretty sure, as a matter of fact I am more familiar with non-Northern Italy habits, as I am Italian (from the center and living in the center) but I have lived years in the South and also some time in Rome and near Naples.

Again I am not talking of people you know and are friend with, I am talking of:

1 - people that have just been introduced to you

2 - normal greetings between people that meet in commercial or professional environments

The case of:

>I could see it happening in a super small hole-in-the-wall mom and pop type restaurant though.

can surely happen, but it is not common/everyday as the folklore might lead to believe.

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by muzani »

dysosmia wrote: post #13
magicsmoke wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine if steam takes advantage of this to have a coronavirus sale. 50% off all zombie themed games for the coming month.

It would probably be in bad taste to theme it so...on the nose, but I'd believe that it's a good time to be releasing a fresh game right now. It's certainly a terrible time for games in development, with work collaboration maybe disrupted and with all the big publicity events getting cancelled, and it's a bad time for other media that bank a lot on physical releases (e.g. theatrical releases for movies getting pushed…

I don't know. I started playing Pandemic again. Play is a form of experimentation and learning, and what better way to experiment than zombie games?

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by jlokier »

scaglio wrote: post #8

Italian here, north-west. Media are really exaggerating with the situation with daily life and routine, we are allowed to take a walk and go to bars or restaurants if there is one meter of distance between people. The real problem is in the hospitals, and for some enterprises who will really have a loss in these weeks (everything about tourism, for example). One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed…

> One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed to visit relatives or families in other cities/villages, even if a few kilometers away.

How does this affect people who depend on personal care from relatives and friends to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning themselves and going to the toilet?

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by glouwbug »

scaglio wrote: post #8

Italian here, north-west. Media are really exaggerating with the situation with daily life and routine, we are allowed to take a walk and go to bars or restaurants if there is one meter of distance between people. The real problem is in the hospitals, and for some enterprises who will really have a loss in these weeks (everything about tourism, for example). One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed…

So you're saying, if you're single already, you're safe from coronavirus at bars already

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by asdojasdosadsa »

jlokier wrote: post #17
scaglio wrote: post #8

Italian here, north-west. Media are really exaggerating with the situation with daily life and routine, we are allowed to take a walk and go to bars or restaurants if there is one meter of distance between people. The real problem is in the hospitals, and for some enterprises who will really have a loss in these weeks (everything about tourism, for example). One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed…

> One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed to visit relatives or families in other cities/villages, even if a few kilometers away. How does this affect people who depend on personal care from relatives and friends to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning themselves and going to the toilet?

You can get a note which has the reason for your travel. If it checks out you are free to travel IIRC.

Reasons to travel might be ex. work

Re: Italy's Coronavirus Lockdown Upends the Most Basic Routines and Joys

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Post by scaglio »

jlokier wrote: post #17
scaglio wrote: post #8

Italian here, north-west. Media are really exaggerating with the situation with daily life and routine, we are allowed to take a walk and go to bars or restaurants if there is one meter of distance between people. The real problem is in the hospitals, and for some enterprises who will really have a loss in these weeks (everything about tourism, for example). One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed…

> One of the biggest downsides is that people are not allowed to visit relatives or families in other cities/villages, even if a few kilometers away. How does this affect people who depend on personal care from relatives and friends to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning themselves and going to the toilet?

This is one of the very few reason for which you can move and assist relatives out of your town.
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