Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus • Hacker News Board

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#31

Post by tyfon » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

nothrabannosir wrote: post #25

tenant wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly you are probably correct. The Nordics are the perfect cousins the rest of us Europeans keep being unfavourably compared to. We have to keep digging!

If you’re really looking: Norway makes a significant chunk of money from oil exports, contributing to (and profiting from) what is arguably the greatest threat facing our civilisation today. Finland, on the other hand.. much respect :)

Hopefully we'll put the CO2 back into the wells [1] and stop opening new wells :)

I was quite livid when they opened a new major oil field last year but it takes time to change things.

https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/energy/carbon-capture-a...

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#32

Post by seilrse » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

wbl wrote: post #28

Time for the health department to put some big red notices up on the office and the ships.

Honestly, the time for that was long ago. Cruises have always been wasteful, floating Petri dishes.

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#33

Post by phonypc » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC

sonicxxg wrote: post #7

This recent coronavirus outbreak has been very enlightening, cause it gaves us more information on why cruises are a bad idea, and perfect for an epidemic. The same air is recirculating among all cabins. However, it does not explain why we haven't heard of flu outbreaks in cruises before this coronavirus. It seems cruises are perfect for the proliferation of any airborne virus.

Why would recirculated air be a concern on cruise ships? They're not airplanes. Also COVID-19 only seems to be airborne in the sense that you can get it from coughed/sneezed droplets directly from a sick person, not aerosols that can be widely distributed.

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#34

Post by temptemptemp111 » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC

socialdemocrat wrote: post #3

As a Norwegian I want to point out that there are no Norwegian owners of Norwegian Cruise Lines. It is to my knowledge fully American owned. It was Norwegian long time ago. Sorry just don’t want to get us associated with such extremely unethical behavior. Frankly it ought to be punishable in the justice system.

Why not point out that they were right about Corona being a sham basically? It's flu season and that's it... As a Norweigian you're as conformist and appealing to authority as I expect.

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#35

Post by belltaco » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #23

duxup wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternative confusion: I assumed it was a weirdly worded title about the country... but then I wondered why they had a 'Sales Team'.

Depending on the target market and customer's place in the sales funnel, a country's sales team is called "ministry of culture", "ministry of foreign affairs" or "army".

A lot of countries have a "Ministry of Tourism" and a Tourism Minister.

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#36

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

That's borderline criminal. To blatantly lie about the risks - especially elderly passengers - people are taking should be actionable in some way. These emails will come back to haunt them if family of future casualties sues them. I sincerely hope they go out of business.

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#37

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

nothrabannosir wrote: post #25

tenant wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly you are probably correct. The Nordics are the perfect cousins the rest of us Europeans keep being unfavourably compared to. We have to keep digging!

If you’re really looking: Norway makes a significant chunk of money from oil exports, contributing to (and profiting from) what is arguably the greatest threat facing our civilisation today. Finland, on the other hand.. much respect :)

[deleted]

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#38

Post by ridaj » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #15

sonicxxg wrote: post #7

This recent coronavirus outbreak has been very enlightening, cause it gaves us more information on why cruises are a bad idea, and perfect for an epidemic. The same air is recirculating among all cabins. However, it does not explain why we haven't heard of flu outbreaks in cruises before this coronavirus. It seems cruises are perfect for the proliferation of any airborne virus.

> This recent coronavirus outbreak has been very enlightening, cause it gaves us more information on why cruises are a bad idea, and perfect for an epidemic. The same air is recirculating among all cabins. We already knew that about cruises. > However, it does not explain why we haven't heard of flu outbreaks in cruises before this coronavirus We have, actually, but we don't hear about it much, because, except with t…

Interesting. On [0], it seems like people on that ship were not tested for coronavirus though, because they weren't meeting criteria that the CDC had laid out for who could be tested. Let's hope it was really just the flu!...

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#39

Post by flurdy » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:22 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #10

eCa wrote: post #6

This is about Norwegian Cruise Line, and not the airline Norwegian.

Alternative confusion: I assumed it was a weirdly worded title about the country... but then I wondered why they had a 'Sales Team'.

First I thought it was the country then the airline. Never the cruise line.

But this is a Miami based news source, so I can forgive the lack of clarity as my impression is that cruise ships are very significant there, so for their audience the cruise line might be what they associate first.

It is not their fault it gets linked to a worldwide audience on HN...

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

#40

Post by duxup » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 2:23 PM UTC

flurdy wrote: post #39

duxup wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternative confusion: I assumed it was a weirdly worded title about the country... but then I wondered why they had a 'Sales Team'.

First I thought it was the country then the airline. Never the cruise line. But this is a Miami based news source, so I can forgive the lack of clarity as my impression is that cruise ships are very significant there, so for their audience the cruise line might be what they associate first. It is not their fault it gets linked to a worldwide audience on HN...

Good point in Miami the Norwegian shorthand probabbly is as obvious as it gets.

Outside of port towns where they visit, we've got no clue.