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A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Seems like focusing on blaming individuals rather than: - Employers don't allow telecommuting. - Employers with draconian sick leave policies. - No paid sick leave for the majority of jobs (and or strict limits). - Limited access to testing to know if you have Covid-19 (Vs. a common cold). Which is significant with e.g. Walmarts new policies which ONLY allow Covid-19 paid sick leave. Ultimately we set up a system whe…

The manifesto is not blaming people, it's blaming governments for not doing enough. It's calling on people to take care of themselves.

That said, in the US with its tradition of completely ignoring all needs of employees, there are a lot of people for who this advice would amount to quitting their job, and it's pretty obvious a lot of people can't afford that.

Employers should definitely do their part by encouraging people to work from home, and paying sick people to stay home so they don't infect their co-workers. I honestly don't understand what kind of employers would want an epidemic to spread in their offices.

Reading about American employers is baffling compared to my own. Everybody is encouraged to work from home. In face, every week half of the company is required to work from home. If anyone in your household has a cold, you have to work from home for two weeks.

It may be a slight overreaction, but that's vastly better than just ignoring the problem. From everything I hear, I seriously fear COVID-19 is going to wreak havoc in the US. They seem to have fine-tuned their country to be as vulnerable as possible to this: Many people with no or poor health insurance, no sick days, who are very easy to fire, will feel forced to go to work no matter how sick they are. Then there's Trump firing the pandemic crisis team, a dramatic shortage of tests, and nobody seems to be in charge over this thing, or even know anything at all.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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I don't understand. How are doctors this stupid? We have obvious communal transmission in France (and other countries). And if nobody is fucking testing for it, the doctor can't fucking say that you can't have it. What happened to evidence-based medicine?

> How are doctors this stupid? ... the doctor can't fucking say that you can't have it. What happened to evidence-based medicine? You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. When something 100x less severe than the coronavirus happens, there is an ABSOLUTE AVALANCHE of people calling in on the full spectrum of sickness, from psychosomatic, to actually sick but with the wrong thing, to actually sick with the ri…

Test, test, test. South Korea has tested 100.000 people. In Europe? Nobody is doing anything. You can't respond to something when you have zero idea what the scale is. We're literally seeing Europe stick its head in the sand.somebody comes in with flu-like symptoms, you fucking test. Psychosomatic doesn't matter, either you have the symptoms or you don't. And if you do, you test, test, fucking test. Not tell people to go home, you obviously can't have coronavirus.

The diagnostic is dead simple. Look at any health ministry of any country. It doesn't take a medical degree to understand that if you have flu-like symptoms, you need to be tested for the flu. And if you don't have any of the flu strains making the rounds, test for Coronavirus. You know, exactly what SK is able to do but somehow Europe isn't.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Great advice, but the expletive will limit its reach. Consider adding another alternate domain so that this can be shared with friends/family whom might find this offensive.

People now take offense at the word ‘fuck’? They must have a really hard life.

In the US they do. The US has a long history of censoring this and a couple of other words.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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> How are doctors this stupid? ... the doctor can't fucking say that you can't have it. What happened to evidence-based medicine? You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. When something 100x less severe than the coronavirus happens, there is an ABSOLUTE AVALANCHE of people calling in on the full spectrum of sickness, from psychosomatic, to actually sick but with the wrong thing, to actually sick with the ri…

Test, test, test. South Korea has tested 100.000 people. In Europe? Nobody is doing anything. You can't respond to something when you have zero idea what the scale is. We're literally seeing Europe stick its head in the sand.somebody comes in with flu-like symptoms, you fucking test. Psychosomatic doesn't matter, either you have the symptoms or you don't. And if you do, you test, test, fucking test. Not tell people t…

Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Test, test, test. South Korea has tested 100.000 people. In Europe? Nobody is doing anything. You can't respond to something when you have zero idea what the scale is. We're literally seeing Europe stick its head in the sand.somebody comes in with flu-like symptoms, you fucking test. Psychosomatic doesn't matter, either you have the symptoms or you don't. And if you do, you test, test, fucking test. Not tell people t…

Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.

And Europe's policy needs to change. Nobody is saying dealing with this epidemic is going to be free.

Yet the doctor is one of many who are dismissing the likelihood of somebody having coronavirus just because they haven't been to Italy. So yes, stupid.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Anybody know if there is a safe for work version of this? I would like to share it with my colleagues but the choice of language means I can't.

Your company forbids the sending of urls with fuck in?

I have no idea, and no desire to find out :)

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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post #56

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People now take offense at the word ‘fuck’? They must have a really hard life.

In the US they do. The US has a long history of censoring this and a couple of other words.

People aside, there are lots overly aggressive firewalls that will block any domain with the word "fuck" in it.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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> If you have symptoms that feel like death I am telling you to discount this persons' advice, get yourself to the doctor because you may very well be dying. No, as the advice you cite subsequently says, you should NOT get yourself to a doctor, you should call them. Which is consistent with staying the fuck home.

Buddy if you're dying, go to the doctor, but make sure to call first.

No. Call them and they'll tell you what to do.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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post #56

Great advice, but the expletive will limit its reach. Consider adding another alternate domain so that this can be shared with friends/family whom might find this offensive.

People now take offense at the word ‘fuck’? They must have a really hard life.

Do you drop f-bombs in front of your grandmother? It's about respect and understanding of someone else's values and upbringing.

The comment was about reaching a wider audience, not being offended.

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