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A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by mumblemumble »

pgrote wrote: post #8

Quick question ... wouldn't a more appropriate response be to self quarantine those age groups most at risk?

People who are more at risk can't necessarily self-quarantine as effectively, because the same factors that put them at risk tend to also mean they require more care from (and therefore contact with) others.

It's like the flu shot. One big reason to get the flu shot every year, even if you never get the flu, is because controlling it needs to be a community effort. A big vector for seasonal flu is young, healthy people with subclinical infections. They never develop any symptoms, or maybe think it's just a cold, so they keep circulating in public and blithely spreading it to others.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by sonicxxg »

Someone1234 wrote: post #6

Seems like focusing on blaming individuals rather than: - Employers don't allow telecommuting. - Employers with draconian sick leave policies. - No paid sick leave for the majority of jobs (and or strict limits). - Limited access to testing to know if you have Covid-19 (Vs. a common cold). Which is significant with e.g. Walmarts new policies which ONLY allow Covid-19 paid sick leave. Ultimately we set up a system whe…

Agree with you. I feel whoever put page up, who is brave enough to curse, but not enough to indicate his name, should leave his little social bubble and look at the reality of lower income folks. For a lot of people, telecommuting is not a reality. I foresee a lot of people being highly impacted financially, if a quarantine is declared in the USA, which lacks a lot of social assistance regulations from other countries.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by chrisBob »

livealife wrote: post #23
pqs wrote: post #12

The page lacks something about how to deal with kids. That's a huge point for those of us that have toddlers and kids at home.

As per news, coronavirus is more dangerous to elders compared children

The problem with kids isn't that they are at risk of a serious infection, the problem is that someone needs to watch them. I worked from home yesterday while my daughter was off for the election, and while my work from home days are usually more productive, yesterday my output was clearly lower. Even a good 5-year-old needs a fair amount of attention. Younger kids need even more.

Kids are also great at spreading viruses even if they don't get very sick from them. In some ways that makes it worse because if they don't have obvious symptoms then they could be more likely to transmit it as no one is monitoring them closely.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

Minor49er wrote: post #28
pqs wrote: post #12

The page lacks something about how to deal with kids. That's a huge point for those of us that have toddlers and kids at home.

Given the unnecessary profanity in the title, I get the sense that the site's creator may be a juvenile without kids of their own

Yeah, it’s not often you can use profanity and still get taken seriously at the scale they want this at.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by ancarda »

For many years now, I have - 5 times a week - left a building with a computer and Internet access to travel for an hour or more to a building with a computer and Internet access to talk to my colleagues - almost exclusively over Slack and GitHub - for many hours, before traveling back to the same building I left earlier that day. Often, I carry the computer I used throughout the day with me.

Apparently working from home isn't going to be allowed...

Oh well.

Re: A Movement to Stop the Covid-19 Pandemic

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Post by mumblemumble »

dpau wrote: post #34
mumblemumble wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> blaming individuals Or is it encouraging individuals to start making more of a grassroots effort to effect change for their own sakes, rather than sitting around waiting for the people with little to gain and much to lose in enacting more human policies to suddenly have a change of heart?

it reminds me of climate change, pushing blame onto individuals while corporations and governments continue business as usual. sure, recycle that bottle. quarantine yourself. but in the grand scheme of things it makes very little difference compared to if corporations and governments took the actions necessary.

They won't do it for no reason at all, though. They will do it in response to public pressure.

Which means that change inevitably has to start with individuals. Trying to insist that it's corporations' and governments' job to make the first move is only useful in situations where assigning blame is more important than dealing with the problem.

Perhaps related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

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