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We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Howdy, as the founder of the Serval Mesh adhoc networking protocols and hardware, what I would look for in a new radio is: 1. True packet radio mode, that doesn't hide the radioness of the link etc, but lets the programmer use it's strengths. 2. UART link, ideally using 3DR/RFD900 compatible connector (then we can include it directly in our existing systems, and so can others). 3. Field-flashable, but with robust pro…

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Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Hi ya'll, so we've spent a few weeks making device software and an android app to convert a $30 chinese gps/radio into a long range mesh radio for hikers. It is working fairly well now (though still an alpha) and we'd love more people to try it and/or have fun coding on it. We got about 30 users (and some devs from this hackaday article) but we'd love more users and devs to join this happy-happy project: https://hack…

What frequency band are you using? ISM is the only one that permits store-and-forward / automatic operation, as the gotenna people found. You say a few miles per node - I am having trouble seeing how that's possible without elevating all the nodes

I actually fly FPV drones and it’s amazing how far I can go and what obstacles I can penetrate with my 915mhz 2W control link with very usable latency (good antennas makes a huge difference as mentioned by others). 2-5km through thick city buildings etc at times.

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Not sure if this is "good" advice, but this would make for a very appealing kickstarter: cool gadget with very useful functionality for popular activities (music festivals, hiking, skiing) that could even help in an emergency. It hits a lot of the right notes. Possible that when you're further along you can have a kickstarter for a commercial version that's officially created by the open-source project. The more (mut…

There are already a couple of companies doing similar kickstarters I think. But we want this to be a non profit open source project for fun. We are using a GPL license, but if someone wants to eventually sell devices (as long as they obey the GPL) with our code we think that's great.

The ESP32 draws quite a lot of current when running BLE (without Wifi), unless that's been fixed recently. IIRC, the TTGO boards have poor low-power design that will kill the 18650 battery in a few days, no matter what you do, that could perhaps be fixed with a small modification though.

I have a hardware design that might be an interesting starting point. It's based around nrf52 (Cortex M4F with BLE and nice SDK), 400mah battery, microphone, speaker, 3*4 RGB LED matrix, gyro/accelerometer, NFC. Very small device, 35mm across. Can extend the top of the PCB, add a small OLED screen and a LORA radio. Hitting $30 price point shouldn't be a problem. Email in profile :-)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUyrRYDrtu2SHsHR9

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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It seems the website is down. I somehow wonder if it is from the Hacker News crowd.

yeah - I was a dumbass when I typed the URL. the correct url is www.meshtastic.org.

Which means the post made it to the front page without a single person clicking on the link. Classic.

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Would be great to have LoraWan redundancy, say with the things network, if in range. From my experience, 8 days battery life with TTGO-beam is unrealistic, unless sleeping for most of the time, or with some hardware modifications. Great project, I will test it out!

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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This is very similar to FLARM devices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLARM) for ultralights, gliders, etc. This is already broadly deployed (at least in Europe).

You could check for any lessons learned there. I think you can discount any flight users, because they would like to be seen too by other airplanes.

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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This is awesome! It looks like it could do several things for which I wanted to have a device. Offline GPS tracker with very long run time for hiking. I'd like up to one month run time. On the other hand I only need low time resolution, one waypoint each minute. It also does not need to send the location anywhere, storing it local is fine. Offline/Online GPS tracker for paragliding. Battery for one day, but also high…

This Garmin device in Expedition mode might work for you. It seems to have configurable GPS logging and inReach satellite coms.

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/inreach/f/gpsma...

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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What frequency band are you using? ISM is the only one that permits store-and-forward / automatic operation, as the gotenna people found. You say a few miles per node - I am having trouble seeing how that's possible without elevating all the nodes

Can you use MURS for this? Or potentially GMRS if the operators are licensed?

Hmm... I'm pretty sure MURS allows for this type of traffic as of the last rules revision and would be ideal for this use with the higher power allowance, but MURS is a USA only thing so that kinda limits you if the goal is something that works all around the world.

OP is also talking about using off the shelf LoRa boards and their project is more about the software, so they are stuck with the bands available on the commercial LoRa transceivers those boards use.

Re: We're making an open-source $30 GPS/mesh radio, would like advice

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Howdy, as the founder of the Serval Mesh adhoc networking protocols and hardware, what I would look for in a new radio is: 1. True packet radio mode, that doesn't hide the radioness of the link etc, but lets the programmer use it's strengths. 2. UART link, ideally using 3DR/RFD900 compatible connector (then we can include it directly in our existing systems, and so can others). 3. Field-flashable, but with robust pro…

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