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MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by Calloutman »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #480
laputan_machine wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK at least, most students live in shared-housing and cook for themselves from supermarket food, the 'dorm' model is usually used for the first year (~10 people sharing a bathroom and kitchen, although some new builds now have ensuite bathrooms), but never a shared room. Usually no cafeteria either (although some do). I can't believe some people are paying tens of thousands of dollars per semester to share a r…

Well - you are lying since none of the university accommodation in the UK is covered by tuition fees and it’s costs are sufficiently higher than what you would pay if you didn’t live in dorms. Also I had a friend who lived in a shared bunk room in the UK.

I'm not sure if he's edited his post, but it is extremely rare for students to share rooms at any point of their university life. The closest thing we have is a shared study where two people have their own small sleeping room, but share a space with two desks/chairs. And even that is very uncommon.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by nicoburns »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #480
laputan_machine wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK at least, most students live in shared-housing and cook for themselves from supermarket food, the 'dorm' model is usually used for the first year (~10 people sharing a bathroom and kitchen, although some new builds now have ensuite bathrooms), but never a shared room. Usually no cafeteria either (although some do). I can't believe some people are paying tens of thousands of dollars per semester to share a r…

Well - you are lying since none of the university accommodation in the UK is covered by tuition fees and it’s costs are sufficiently higher than what you would pay if you didn’t live in dorms. Also I had a friend who lived in a shared bunk room in the UK.

> It’s costs are sufficiently higher than what you would pay if you didn’t live in dorms.

This actually varies significantly by university. Prices for accommodation have been going up since the recent government funding cuts (that accompanies the fee increase to £9k), but were traditionally subsidized by the universities such that they were cheaper than market rents.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by laputan_machine »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #480
laputan_machine wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK at least, most students live in shared-housing and cook for themselves from supermarket food, the 'dorm' model is usually used for the first year (~10 people sharing a bathroom and kitchen, although some new builds now have ensuite bathrooms), but never a shared room. Usually no cafeteria either (although some do). I can't believe some people are paying tens of thousands of dollars per semester to share a r…

Well - you are lying since none of the university accommodation in the UK is covered by tuition fees and it’s costs are sufficiently higher than what you would pay if you didn’t live in dorms. Also I had a friend who lived in a shared bunk room in the UK.

I am not lying, but you can choose not to believe me if you want. I used to work for MMU, one of my duties was to inspect the first-year halls of residence. It felt strange, as I was younger than them at the time!

UK tuition fees are increasing, agreed, but that is a separate argument. Not making an argument against better tuition either, MIT is obviously a leader in some areas.

Please assume my intention is positive. I am not willfully spreading misinformation, if I'm wrong, point me to the facts.

Cost https://sfs.mit.edu/undergraduate-students/the-cost-of-atten... here says $10k/yr for housing, my mortgage isn't even that high. As a comparison: https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/experience/student-life/l... (which I think is still quite high)

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by nervousvarun »

mlang23 wrote: post #472
secstate wrote: post #370

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Pretty sure the ban on microwaves was an electrical fire risk, not them being predatory about students eating at the dining hall. Can you imagine if even every other room had an appliance pulling 1000W whenever the hell a student felt like warming up some soup?

OK, I know the U.S. doesn't have a good public healthcare system. But please don't tell me you don't have decent electricity either?

yeah it's not correct. in fact the logic makes no sense at all...how would apartment complexes exist if it was true?

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by iso947 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #237
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #143

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What about lab work that demands physical access to facilities and equipment? Not everything can be virtualized.

I don't know. But if they can solve it, then a true online degree becomes possible, not just in an emergency. That's going to be revolutionary. Twenty years from now, everyone having to move to a physical location to attend a university is going to seem insane... if they can solve it.

A key part of moving away from your parents and going to uni is moving away from your parents. You are thrust into a whole new world, and that forces you to challenge your world view.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by dang »

simonw wrote: post #152
dang wrote: post #79

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I've added "for the rest of the semester", which is explicit about being temporary and I suppose implies enough about covid-19. (Submitted title was "MIT moves all classes online, requires undergraduates to leave campus".)

As a non-US national I never really know what a "semester" is with respect to US universities. Not sure what a better title would be though. The key information here in my opinion is that students are being told not o come back in a few weeks following spring break.

I suppose we could say "term" but it starts to feel like diminishing returns.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by Ensorceled »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #320
Trasmatta wrote: post #140

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So a Y2K style hindsight? I wonder if there is a phrase for that type of thing.

"Closing the barn door after the horses have left" ?

Closing the barn door before the horses leave and being blamed for the barn being too warm is actually what is happening.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by bgeeek »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #480
laputan_machine wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK at least, most students live in shared-housing and cook for themselves from supermarket food, the 'dorm' model is usually used for the first year (~10 people sharing a bathroom and kitchen, although some new builds now have ensuite bathrooms), but never a shared room. Usually no cafeteria either (although some do). I can't believe some people are paying tens of thousands of dollars per semester to share a r…

Well - you are lying since none of the university accommodation in the UK is covered by tuition fees and it’s costs are sufficiently higher than what you would pay if you didn’t live in dorms. Also I had a friend who lived in a shared bunk room in the UK.

Nope, he’s not lying. Worked at 3 redbricks. It is exactly as described.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by en-us »

kart23 wrote: post #442
pfranz wrote: post #368

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Any option to install it onto a VM or a separate drive for dual boot? Windows 10 VMs are active for a few weeks (or edu discounts are often pretty steep). If it was in a VM you otherwise use you can snapshot and revert back after taking the test (I guess you could do this with a normal backup, too). That's usually my go-to for stuff like this (but for me it's often Linux/macOS).

VMs and Linux aren't allowed, and apparently the software can detect if you're using either. I'm probably gonna use my macbook for it, but I just hate willingly installing such garbage. https://www.proctoru.com/proctoru-live-resource-center

Perhaps partition your hard drive then and dual boot? Then reclaim the Windows partition after the program is no longer needed.

Re: MIT moves all classes online for the rest of the semester

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Post by phyzome »

kyeb wrote: post #167
generationP wrote: post #144

> Undergraduates who live in an MIT residence or fraternity, sorority or independent living group (FSILG) must begin packing and departing this Saturday, March 14. We are requiring undergraduates to depart from campus residences no later than noon on Tuesday, March 17. This is strange. Isn't the travel they are forcing quite possibly a cure worse than the disease? And are they really expecting students (many of them…

>In what way are dorms worse than personal homes for diseases anyway? Are they not trusting their students to prepare their own food? Why don't they just close the dining halls instead? The dorms have shared bathrooms, often shared rooms with doubles, triples, and quads, and shared living spaces (lounges, study rooms, laundry, etc.) in addition to the dining halls. Moreover, in our dorms, we have effectively no way t…

Low risk? The Kendall Square area of Cambridge is the very center of the outbreak in the Boston area. That's where MIT is, and where the Biogen headquarters are.

Many MIT students will later be discovered to have been exposed, and then exported the disease to places around the US and around the world.

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