New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

Post by danans » Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:10 PM UTC

lootsauce wrote: post #41

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That's misleading. The Feds state that they've sent several hundred thousand tests to private labs and hospitals which do not report their figures directly to CDC. They don't know how many have been used at this point (which is bad, but not as bad as them not sending out hundreds of thousands of tests). "Earlier on Tuesday, Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said he couldn’t provide the figur…

Seems like a lame argument, they are the CDC why can't they simply ask the labs to report back the findings its a global pandemic for goodness sake.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:30 PM UTC

vkou wrote: post #16

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I've not been keeping up; what's the obstacle to getting tested? Insurance companies not covering? Hospitals not willing? Patients not going in?

A laughable shortage of test kits. Combined with a CDC ban on third-party testing that was recently lifted. The retirement home in Kirkland that had 18 deaths from the virus over the last 2 weeks currently has ~30 patients in the ICU... Who still have not been tested for the virus.

Post by pbourke » Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

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I think at this point it’s more helpful to think about what individuals and private organizations can do rather than look to a central government organization to solve all of our problems. See Gates Foundation decision(s) over past few days. I also know plenty of people in state orgs and can say I have a lot of confidence in them as well as the many healthcare orgs. I’m not downvoting this despite the obvious politic…

Establishing a completely parallel privatized set of epidemic response infrastructure, from scratch, with no official capacity/color of law/official powers, in the middle of an ongoing crisis isn't exactly a plausible suggestion. Reality is there's effectively no containing it at this point, we're well past that stage of things. Get a vaccine going ASAP, sure, but it's already sweeping through the population. Officia…

Post by catacombs » Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 11:05 PM UTC

fgonzag wrote: post #40

downerending wrote: post #27

Might not sound like it, but the fact that they're taking this seriously is good news. If there are cases in New Rochelle, probably large numbers of other commuters taking the New Haven line down into Manhattan have been exposed. We need to start practicing on what's coming, and right now, China's looking like the most successful model.

It's basically impossible to quarantine entire cities in a democracy, especially with an election coming up. I mean, you can , but it's going to cost you so much political capital that you'll be out of the game entirely. And I don't see many politicians willing to put their jobs on the line for it.

Post by ASalazarMX » Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 11:25 PM UTC

catacombs wrote: post #48

fgonzag wrote: post #40

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It's basically impossible to quarantine entire cities in a democracy, especially with an election coming up. I mean, you can , but it's going to cost you so much political capital that you'll be out of the game entirely. And I don't see many politicians willing to put their jobs on the line for it.

> I mean, you can, but it's going to cost you so much political capital that you'll be out of the game entirely. And I don't see many politicians willing to put their jobs on the line for it. Jesus. Putting people's lives at risk, just so you can keep your government job? How low can we can go?