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Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

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You can take a look at Cornell. The grade criteria is not as struct as MIT/Caltech but the CS program is considered one of the best in the US.

I second that, although I am a Cornell grad so I am biased :) Cornell also accepts a huge amount of transfers. It's somewhere around 20-30% when I was there. But be aware of the stats on sites like US News. The engineering school is much more competitive to get in.

Haha yep. I'm a Cornell grad too so I'm a bit biased. I wasn't strictly a CS major though.

When I was at Cornell they had the Computer Science cross listed between Arts and Sciences and Engineering so you can get the degree in either school. I was doing Math as my primary major so I was in the Arts and Sciences school but I picked up the Minor/Concentration in CS through the Arts and Sciences school.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#33
post #13

What state are you in? Most states have at least one good public university, and these are generally fairly easy to get into and fairly cheap (if you're from in-state). If there's not a good one in your state, try one in a nearby state. It'll be more expensive and harder to get into, but still generally cheaper/easier than a private school. I can personally recommend UNC-Chapel Hill (nice campus, small town, good mix…

I'm in California, so Berkeley is an obvious option.

Berkeley is awesome. Nothing you can't get here academically that you could get at another school. Great bang for your buck.

(EECS senior)

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#34
post #7

Try Brigham Young University, in Provo, Utah. They've got a competitive (if not top-tier) CS program, fantastic library, beautiful campus, and tuition is 20% of what you'd pay at other private schools. Warning: not a party school

+1 from a BYU alum. Tuition is $2K/semester, $1500 if you're Mormon. It's approx 80-90% subsidized by the LDS church.

My uncle has been a software manager/VP in Boston and Utah, and he said he prefers BYU grads to MIT grads because they have a strong enough theoretical background and much better practical skills. Starts out in Java but also lots of C++ programming courses.

It's not a party school, but great if you love sports, outdoors, mountain biking, hiking, camping, and skiing, it's hard to beat. If you really need to party, Salt Lake and the UofU are an hour north.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

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post #27

You can take a look at Cornell. The grade criteria is not as struct as MIT/Caltech but the CS program is considered one of the best in the US.

I second that, although I am a Cornell grad so I am biased :) Cornell also accepts a huge amount of transfers. It's somewhere around 20-30% when I was there. But be aware of the stats on sites like US News. The engineering school is much more competitive to get in.

You can always apply to another easier-to-get-into program within Cornell and then transfer into the engineering school. You just need a 3.0 your freshman year. You can even take all engineering courses before you transfer if you want to, not that I'd recommend it if you're trying to get a good GPA. (Also a Cornell grad.)

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#36
Go after those top-tier schools.

If you're slacking off on homework working through SICP, you're probably top-tier worthy. People who go after their interests are by definition more interesting.

Don't weigh yourself on the standard metric because you're not standard. And don't let that hinder the selling of yourself in your applications. I would much rather hire a person who has started a startup before than one from a corporate environment, and I think this principal holds true for colleges as well - they would much rather accept someone who does what they're interested in and pursues things beyond the norm.

College is the first great opportunity for young people to learn how to sell. Think of yourself as a package - what differentiates you and makes you special? Then, arrange your application that way. It's foolish to put your SAT scores and grades up front as your flagship 'feature' that differentiates you from others, even if you've aced them. Take some time arranging your application centered around your strengths and things that you're proud of, and make them want to have you, or regret it every night for rejecting you.

Again, go after those top-tier schools - being rejected is not as bad as regretting not applying to them.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#37
What state do you live in? If you're in California, a good option would be community college for two years and then transfer to UC of your choice (Berkeley is on par with MIT as far as EE/CS goes). I am sure your state has excellent universities and similar programs.

I'd say any university in the UC system is an excellent bet, as is University of Washington, U Michigan, UMN Twin Cities, etc. You'd get an excellent CS/EE education any one of those places.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#38
post #20

Option #1) Go to a junior college, do your best and transfer to a real school. (EDIT: In Cali, your grades will count as full "university" grades, so a 3.5 GPA will be taken as a true 3.5 university GPA when transferring) Option #2) Simply try to get it the best school possible, top tier or not. If you aim low, guess what? You're gonna have low results. There are universities that exist to privide workers for the eco…

I've worked with/known several SJSU (a CSU University) graduates and I definitely wouldn't call the education you get there anything like ITT. You can see the curriculum here: http://www.cs.sjsu.edu/Programs/bs_in_cs/requirements/CS_req... (yes there's also Java and there are courses in UNIX system administration, so the "straight to work" track is definitely available but real theory - formal languages, data structures, architecture - is required).

That being said, if you can afford a UC and can get in (particularly UC Berkeley) - including through the community college transfer option - you should go for it.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

#39

Try Georgia Tech, you might be surprised that it's not terribly hard to get into. warning: not many girls here

Georgia Tech is a great school for Computer Science (they model their program after the best of the top-tier schools) and will IMO give you a much stronger foundation than a liberal arts school with a CS program.

I spent a year at MIT and transferred to Georgia Tech and I don't regret it in the least.

Re: Ask YC: what non-top-tier college to apply for?

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hot off the press, came out today

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/eng/c...

i think if you buy the mag, there's rankings for more than 10 schools. And i vaguely remember another ranking for best values in education, places like Rose-Hulman, Cooper-Union,

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