A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
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Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#2Jobs' decision to ship NeXT on 68k at the very moment when the architecture fell behind basically crippled the platform. Superscalar pipelined architectures were taking off, and where Intel managed to catch up with the Pentium and pull ahead with the P6 and derivatives, Motorla just never got it done. So while the NeXT was adequate (if somewhat slow) in 1988 by 1993 (when Intel released the Pentium, meaning that the whole industry was now expecting >1 IPS performance) it was kind of a joke.
While SPARC was proprietary (and PA and POWER were still in the future) MIPS was actually shipping chips at the time for general sale. Why NeXT didn't go with them I don't know.
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#3Jobs' decision to ship NeXT on 68k at the very moment when the architecture fell behind basically crippled the platform. Superscalar pipelined architectures were taking off, and where Intel managed to catch up with the Pentium and pull ahead with the P6 and derivatives, Motorla just never got it done. So while the NeXT was adequate (if somewhat slow) in 1988 by 1993 (when Intel released the Pentium, meaning that the…
Probably because Jobs knew M68K already and had relationships with Motorola? Just a theory.
NeXT did have a working M88K[1] system, that booted and ran. The case was a slightly taller version of the NeXTStation. Then they killed all hardware.
However the pa-risc systems were the best you could run NS/OS on. Intel might be faster but it was a pain to setup. 712/100 just ran and ran smoothly.
[1] http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/index.php?topic=1271.msg...
http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Images/Rare_NeXT_Hard...
EDIT: Changed powerpc to m88K.
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#4Jobs' decision to ship NeXT on 68k at the very moment when the architecture fell behind basically crippled the platform. Superscalar pipelined architectures were taking off, and where Intel managed to catch up with the Pentium and pull ahead with the P6 and derivatives, Motorla just never got it done. So while the NeXT was adequate (if somewhat slow) in 1988 by 1993 (when Intel released the Pentium, meaning that the…
NeXT was working on a Motorola 88110 (later revised to Motorola 601) RISC processors., but NeXT abandoned the hardware business in 1993 before they went to market.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT_RISC_Workstation?wprov=sf...
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#5Jobs' decision to ship NeXT on 68k at the very moment when the architecture fell behind basically crippled the platform. Superscalar pipelined architectures were taking off, and where Intel managed to catch up with the Pentium and pull ahead with the P6 and derivatives, Motorla just never got it done. So while the NeXT was adequate (if somewhat slow) in 1988 by 1993 (when Intel released the Pentium, meaning that the…
NeXT was out of the hardware market about a month before P5 shipped, and they were already in the process of trying to move to PPC. The CPU was just about the least interesting chip in NeXT hardware though.
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#6Jobs' decision to ship NeXT on 68k at the very moment when the architecture fell behind basically crippled the platform. Superscalar pipelined architectures were taking off, and where Intel managed to catch up with the Pentium and pull ahead with the P6 and derivatives, Motorla just never got it done. So while the NeXT was adequate (if somewhat slow) in 1988 by 1993 (when Intel released the Pentium, meaning that the…
MIPS would have put them in a completely different price bracket. The MIPS-based DECStation 3100 was $11,900[1] compared to the original $6,500 NeXT computer.
[1] https://books.google.com/books?id=OzoEAAAAMBAJ see page 44
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#7As someone pointed out in the comments, Jobs seemed to have a fascination with HP. Can anybody expound on why he had this fascination with HP and their hardware?
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#8article explaining the 'Color Recovery' DSP used https://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/95apr/apr95a6.pdf
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#9As someone pointed out in the comments, Jobs seemed to have a fascination with HP. Can anybody expound on why he had this fascination with HP and their hardware?
HP's legacy runs deep in the valley, it's not unique to Jobs at all.
It's shocking how far HP has fallen from its illustrious past.
Re: A Quick Tour of the HP-9000 712/100 NeXTSTEP Workstation (2016)
#10As someone pointed out in the comments, Jobs seemed to have a fascination with HP. Can anybody expound on why he had this fascination with HP and their hardware?
Crappy, ad-laden article from CNBC, but that's as hard as I care to look for a URL to back my point. The headline alone should be sufficient.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/25/how-steve-jobs-cold-called-h...
Or are you asking why he'd even have wanted an internship there in the first place?