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I'm in Berlin and people are making zero effort to alter their usual patterns.
As of yesterday, Berlin is no way a risk zone as of now. So why should they? Doesnt mean you can't change your behaviour, so.
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> It's no kind of racism at all. The political situation in Italy has been an absolute powder-keg of not-even-casual racism for years now, not unlike some areas of the UK. The "political boss" of those two regional administrations I mentioned, Matteo Salvini of Lega Nord, tried to scapegoat Asian communities pretty brutally at the onset of the epidemic, with the usual result (Asian-looking people being shouted at in…
> so these right-wingers were left with egg on their faces You could say the same of the left-wing, that promoted for weeks a reckless attitude, pushing the message that we just needed to do business as usual, and to "overcome the fear". The secretary of the most prominent left-wing party, Zingaretti is now infected. About two weeks ago was posting picture of him drinking at a bar with other people. On top of the pic…
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I am a Chinese living in Bay Area. What's described by the Italian doctor was exactly like the situation in Wuhan right after the lockdown for the first 2-3 weeks. Unfortunately, I think it will hit Italy harder this time, China locked down Wuhan but every other provinces send in supplies and doctors to help, just building new hospitals is not enough, and I don't see France/Germany doing the same to Italy. The US res…
I am extremely disappointed in the American government on this. We have had a significant warning and we've seen the virus in multiple countries and the response has been so lackluster. Why should we wait 20 days for things to get terrible before going to quarantines and lock down? Surely China and Italy have shown us our future. I partly think the problem is political. If you quarantine and the virus is controlled,…
Yep. People do this with Y2K, for example. "Nothing happened, what an overreaction!"
Nothing happened because an enormous amount of work was done in advance, but people don't see that side of it as it's reasonably hidden.
This is supposed to be a trasnscription of some Whatsapp calls between medical personnel in the north and south of Italy where the northerners try to update the southerners on the situation https://files.catbox.moe/3ns6c1.mp4 This file is several weeks old by now, a search on the 'net finds a number of pages where the link is mentioned (including one from the 21st of januari 2020 - according to Google that is - hoax…
Are you really still claiming this is not real?
This is an account from one of the doctors in Italy. https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/123714289107769753... Read the whole thing, but this passage in particular is just chilling. "5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are start…
If we had the hospital capacity to deal with it, it wouldn't be so bad. But the suffering (and mortality rate) spikes pretty significantly when you run out.
If we were halfway rational we'd be rapidly scaling up medical capacity now and practicing strong social distancing now... but people are too worried it would unduly wreck the economy.
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I fixed the formatting, typos, and expanded the jargon: From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy: I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do. First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked i…
Did you also fix the uncoroborated nature of the news? You know, the "well respected friend" part of it by reaching out to said person? If not, this whole thing just shows again how dangerous Twitter can be in that regard.
I feel like a wingnut even writing that. My opinion would change except lots of health experts and all the smartest people I've talked to on this seem to agree.
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To feed off your random comment, I live in the US as well but switched all of my clocks (that I was able to) over to 24-hour time a few years ago. It just makes more sense to me. But everybody around me thinks I'm some sort of weirdo for it.
I switched everything I could to C, km, 24 hour time, and YYYY-MM-DD. US social conventions around measurements are just obtuse.
So this is awaiting all countries, in all likelihood? I mean what's the difference between Italy and Switzerland? Or Germany? Or the United States?
It is a guarantee, and it has been since 1 month ago. Italy was first because someone has to be first.
People, even informed audiences like HN's, are just fooling themselves and thinking wishfully.
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I'll give you a different basis for a conspiracy theory: China got COVID-19 first. And got over it first. US and Europe are going to be devastated by it. I'm guessing Russia will fare no better. In the aftermath, who's going to be on top on the global scene?
In the tabletop exercise performed at Johns Hopkins just a few months ago, the world didn't fare so well. Even though some countries initially control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, ultimately leading to 65 million deaths worldwide: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.htm... A chilling, and somewhat likely simulation.
The possible death of nn millions of people is way worse than a global lockdown for a couple of weeks/months.
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The USA is a disaster waiting to happen. I've lived through a disease outbreak that required lockdown/curfews in another country and I don't think the US is logistically or culturally prepared. I don't want to go into longer detail as it will be subjective and seem political, but I'm expecting things to Get Weird.
I do agree, it will be a disaster in Europe but the US will be even worse, absolutely nothing is prepared for that.