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So if you close your eyes and visualize a grocery store experience where you put stuff directly into your tote bags or your backpack and walk right out, with 0 time spent on anything after you have everything you need, this doesn't seem like something completely beyond self-checkout to you? I've used plenty of self checkout lanes too and it's roughly the same satisfaction as going in a cashier lane. It's still X + Y…

What is stopping you from doing this and just not paying at all?

"In Just Walk Out-enabled stores, shoppers enter the store using a credit card."

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That's the point of this technology - to increase impulse buying. Credit cards purpose is that it hides from you how much money you have left. If you were paying in cash and see how much money you have left in your wallet, you're more likely end up not purchasing a given item. This is one step further, since you now don't know how much you're paying (unless you calculating the cost in your head, which most people don…

Well, that's one of the points. Another point is to not pay for cashiers or have checkout lines.

You won't have to pay for cashiers but you will have to still pay for people stocking, security when people inevitably try and beat this system, customer service for when old people without cellphones get confused, etc. Maybe you shave off one minimum wage worker off your payroll, for the cost of however much amazon licenses this tech to you.

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Damn shame how there are no laws to regulate this sort of a thing. The obvious convenience means this tech will be the norm. Is it better to live in a society where my movement being tracked is the only way to buy groceries compared to a third world country where I barely survive? I don't know, but it truly is remarkable how technology has ruined even the most basic human freedoms and dignity. The more I look at new…

Isn't it already the norm that there are security cameras in retail stores to catch shoplifters? This doesn't really change that.

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Damn shame how there are no laws to regulate this sort of a thing. The obvious convenience means this tech will be the norm. Is it better to live in a society where my movement being tracked is the only way to buy groceries compared to a third world country where I barely survive? I don't know, but it truly is remarkable how technology has ruined even the most basic human freedoms and dignity. The more I look at new…

Isn't it already the norm that there are security cameras in retail stores to catch shoplifters? This doesn't really change that.

Yes. Recordings of video, not analysis of your movement and tracking people with their name,social information,history facial recognition and gait analysis.

Is there a difference between a security guard watching you and a person walking around writing down every move you make, every facial expression,posture,gesture,mood,interaction and instantly applying sophisticated correlation in conjunction with thousands of historical data points about you? Come on! There is a difference between a firecracker and thermonuclear bomb.

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Where’s the evidence anyone will actually use this thing? Maybe eventually. You can already do this at apple, but does anyone do it? Perhaps, they will get used to it in time, but i don’t know.

Looking at the status of American retail, not a chance. We put chips in credit cards 20 years too late, and to this day in major metro cities plenty of name brand stores have a little scrap of paper taped to the card reader telling you to swipe. No one likes chip readers unless you have a fetish for security, they are slow and fail before the rest of the credit card. Swiping is instant and works with the scrappiest o…

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Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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The closest I have to this today is the grocery store nearest me - I walk in, I pick up a scanner (you can use an app on your phone but I use their scanner because my phone locks immediately with a passphrase when unused so it's ghastly for this purpose) and I just wander about scanning items and putting them into bags. The scanner shows its estimate of the price paid, which in my experience is always 100% accurate b…

When I last used one of those systems, I found it to be reliable, as you said. And to keep people honest, they'd randomly pick shoppers to go through a regular checkout, which is both understandable and annoying. It also made it super easy to bag groceries.

I used something like this deployed to Coop stores in Denmark. It's a nightmare to use and the random check pissed me off enough so I deleted the app and decided never to use it again.

Try shopping with a little kid and using one hand on your phone and being randomly checked when there are 20 people waiting before you. This is not working in the current version of the technology.

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Here's an off the wall idea. This technology could be used in airport bathrooms to enforce hand washing during a pandemic. It's well established that hand washing, or lack thereof, in an airport setting can supercharge the global spread of disease. The spread of coronavirus could be reduced by up to 60% by consistent handwashing[1] by air travelers. This tech could flag people who walk out of the bathroom without sto…

Yeah and what happens when a false negative happens and you get an embarrassing unjustified alarm?

We already pull people aside for an embarrassing and invasive search if they look brown enough in our airports. A buzzer when I leave the bathroom is the least of my worries.

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Seeing a few negative comments here; I think these are short-sighted in the extreme. Labor is a major cost for retail; anything that massively reduces labor costs is going to be hugely game changing. Combined with amazon promises that it takes only a few weeks to integrate (seriously??) if this works at all, this is going to be a super fast growth group at Amazon. For reference think back to how many stories you’ve r…

Having visited the Amazon Go stores in Seattle at-least 30 times over the last couple of years, including the newly opened Amazon Go Grocery store, I can confidently say that the technology works quite well for the typical shopper. I agree, the question of, can this technology be integrated into existing retail spaces and still work well enough to be economically viable is important. But considering that there hasn't…

How does this technology deal with theft?

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Seeing a few negative comments here; I think these are short-sighted in the extreme. Labor is a major cost for retail; anything that massively reduces labor costs is going to be hugely game changing. Combined with amazon promises that it takes only a few weeks to integrate (seriously??) if this works at all, this is going to be a super fast growth group at Amazon. For reference think back to how many stories you’ve r…

Another major cost in retail is "loss" ... I can see this being pretty effective at loss prevention and coupon fraud (even my small town grocery store require an associate to visit the self-check kiosks if a customer has a coupon).

What sort of effect would this have on loss prevention? To stop theft you need to have staff. Cops will not arrive in time, if at all.
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