This is going to be insanely successful.
Want to bet?
“Just walk out” technology by Amazon
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#552This post looked kind of weird to me so I looked up the whois, it's registered to godaddy. Which is odd because it is not the same registrar as amazon.com or aws, and aws operates a domain registration service so I can't imagine a real amazon service would use godaddy. Combined with the fact that there's no concrete plans set in place, it seems really fake.
Seemed fake till I saw noticed this with Amazon Go https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=16008589011
Definitely gives it more legitimacy!
Also, not sure if genuine mistake or sneaky "clickbait": The video has its `video_poster` image that's eerily similar to a YouTube screenshot, though the video itself is hosted on Amazon's servers, not YouTube.
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#553At least half of the stuff I buy at the store is sold by weight, how is this going to work?
This. So far Amazon Go has just been a bodega disguised as a gimmick.
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#554Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, IBM "thinks" the future. Other companies build them. Conclusion : ideas are worthless, Execution is key
>Conclusion : ideas are worthless, Execution is key This was also often the conclusion found during the Dark Ages. ;D
Hahahaha Spanish Inquisition likes this
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always assumed that was an artifact of free returns; if you bought one thing, maybe you're actually still shopping and want to know other options. I've noticed when I get these they're frequently more expensive than the one I already bought.
They stopped free returns on Prime a long time ago. Now only a few select items offer it. This was about the same time they stopped shipping things in cardboard boxes and went with bubble packs, and most recently, paper wrap with no padding whatsoever.
Source? Literally everything I've returned on Amazon over the last couple years has had at least one free return option (usually via UPS / Amazon Hub dropoff).
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#556Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was not commenting on the thing that the quote was intending to talk about. I was commenting on the privacy implications of what it actually said. From a privacy point of view, you may as well sign up for an account or install an app -- that's a problem for those of us who wouldn't sign up for an account or install an app due to security concerns.
>I was not commenting on the thing that the quote was intending to talk about. Exactly, and that's the definition of a strawman. Again, I do agree with your larger points about privacy, but the presentation of your argument rubbed me the wrong way.
If I say that one way to improve early hand-eye coordination is to give all preschoolers loaded guns, and you tell me that the implications of giving all preschoolers loaded guns is that they will kill each other, that's not a strawman. You're just pointing out that my solution has problems.
I can't come back at you and say, "but I wasn't talking about mortality rates, I was just talking about hand-eye coordination. Your objection is irrelevant to my point."
Similarly, when Amazon makes a statement that using credit cards linked to email is a good way to get around making an Amazon account, and JohnFen correctly asserts that this does nothing for privacy whatsoever, and that Amazon will still make ghost tracking accounts for every shopper, that's not a strawman. They're just pointing out that Amazon's solution doesn't solve the problem.
The reason we don't want accounts isn't because making them is too hard or because we don't own smartphones -- it's explicitly because of the tracking. It's not a convenience problem; using a credit card and a smartphone are both equally convenient for most people.
Amazon is saying, "tell the people who are worried about making accounts that they don't need to, so it's fine." JohnFen is replying, "that doesn't address the reason people like me are worried about making an account."
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#557This sounds completely dystopian from a privacy standpoint.
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#558This is some outright spooky tech. I think it is an overkill for something that could be implemented with a cart with RFID or barcode readers (or some similar tech), or even cameras but only on carts. It kind of reminds me of slapping IoT on Ts that need no Is and only adds security implications to them, only here it is about privacy. Or of any other businesses that slap high-tech onto stuff where people are content with much more basic solutions, in lieu of solving difficult problems.
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It is terrifying that people actually advocate for such authoritarian measures outside of mainland China. Every tyrant ever existed probably had at least one valid reason to justify their particular flavor of tyrannical rule. Coincidentally often it's not very difficult to find numbers that back up stripping people of their freedom, just find the right statistics.
Air travelers already submit too much more invasive measures. It's not like the airport is a bastion of civil liberties or privacy. I can guarantee you that the entrances and public parts of the bathroom (including the sinks) are already monitored by cameras. Also, I don't understand how this proposal is authoritarian in the slightest. As written it involves zero coercion. The only enforcement mechanism is social pre…
I wouldn’t count publicly shaming them as “zero coercion” and by definition authoritarian is “favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom”. Even though I do agree that everyone should wash their hands, this is not the way to do it.
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#560It it just me or are people massively underestimating this? I feel like the impact of this will be close to the self driving car in terms of a vast rollout of massive new automation. I've been to Amazon Go a few times, the small one in NYC, and the selection is underwhelming but the walk out experience is amazing. And since then I've fantasized about just walking out pretty much every time I'm in a grocery store. The…
indeed when i think back to how the self driving car revolutionized.. oh wait what year is it?