“Just walk out” technology by Amazon • Hacker News Board

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by wheaties » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

boublepop wrote: post #246

Aaaand there’s the play. Amazon wasn’t trying to compete with other retails stores by leveraging their tech edge, they were positioning themselves to becoming the single provider of retail checkout solutions for the future. You either opt-in to giving Amazon all your retail data, or you become the only old fashioned “wait in line to get served” store on the street. And where is the competition? Is there anyone at all…

This will destroy more adtech companies than you can imagine. Amazon will have so much of your shopping habits. They'll have even more than just one credit card company will be able to have...

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by purec » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

chipperyman573 wrote: post #296

This post looked kind of weird to me so I looked up the whois, it's registered to godaddy. Which is odd because it is not the same registrar as amazon.com or aws, and aws operates a domain registration service so I can't imagine a real amazon service would use godaddy. Combined with the fact that there's no concrete plans set in place, it seems really fake.

Seemed fake till I saw noticed this with Amazon Go https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=16008589011

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by johnmarcus » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:23 PM UTC

sequoia wrote: post #388

I won't do it. Because 1. I value what's left of my privacy more than saving a minute of human interaction here and there (are you really that busy? I'm not and I have 4 kids) 2. I won't contribute to twisting the arms of my local retailers and forcing them into amazon's yoke. In short: to hell with this. Edit: yoke

THANK YOU! Thiss, and exactly this. I will boycott any store that implements this.

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by ramon » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:23 PM UTC

nck4222 wrote: post #63

My biggest problem with this is that from what I can tell, the only way to know how much you're going to be automatically charged (as well as what items the tech thinks you're purchasing), is to go to a kiosk in the store and get a receipt. Which seems to completely defeat the convenience of just walking out in the first place. I wouldn't feel comfortable just walking out without knowing how much I'm going to be char…

If I was the owner of the Store I would put a security guy to validate that it was paíd, if not then don’t let them put of the Store. I’m a tech guy but if it was my store I would like to double check somehow. From a security perspective it’s great to only let people in with credit and also I would be able to somehow track who was trying to do something wrong.

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by amelius » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:23 PM UTC

It seems like lately the technological advancements are getting ever smaller. They are just conveniences at this point.

And by the way, what happened after Amazon's announcement of drone delivery?

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by skizhak » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:26 PM UTC

and near in future one day amazon will say to the business owner - "just walk out"

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by ramon » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:27 PM UTC

I would love to test this in Brazil because people here are creative with stealing so it would be very interesting to see how this would rollout with people trying to say they didn’t pick things up or things in that manter, WhatsApp had e o change a lot because here in Brazil people abuse the security aspects to the maximum.

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by danShumway » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:30 PM UTC

JohnFen wrote: post #178

askafriend wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But you may as well. By giving them a CC# you're allowing Amazon to spy on you anyway -- and that's not even mentioning the copious surveillance in such stores in the form of cameras and behavior detection. Ha! They already have a decade of my purchase history from being a Prime customer and I shop using an Amazon Credit Card. They've got everything they need and I don't mind. Few people would be bothered by someth…

> we'd see bigger noise about grocery store loyalty programs which are basically to track purchases. In my area, anyway, a huge outcry happened when these programs began to be adopted. Even now, eyeballing people checking out at the local shops, I'd say that only half of people (at most) are using loyalty cards. And many people I personally know who use loyalty cards do so in a manner to subvert the data collection (…

I don't use a loyalty card at any of the stores I shop at, and anecdotally, there's about a 50% chance that if I say "no" when the cashier asks if I have a card or want to create an account, I will later on discover that they've used a store code to give me the same discount.

This is without any prompting on my end, I never ask a cashier to do this for me.

So apparently it's common enough that some cashiers on-instinct just stick a store card in whenever someone says "no". It's common enough that none of them look at me surprised when I refuse.

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by popinman322 » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:32 PM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #344

athenot wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was true 5 years ago but with the quality issues on Amazon, I've found myself buying more on eBay.

Yeah, ebay has much better buyer protections unless the item is Fulfilled By Amazon (which carries a cost premium). eBay prices also tend to be better. If you're going to buy cheap chinese crap anyway, just cut out the middleman. Finally, Amazon's marketplace is just not navigable. Their search is pathetically bad, and this is nothing new, it's been a common complaint for years. Some fairly massive amount of their tr…

I personally find eBay to be much better for items that I can't buy from the manufacturer already. Individual sellers have reputations & reviews separate from product reviews, and those ratings are among the first things you're exposed to when interacting with a seller.

Re: “Just walk out” technology by Amazon

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

chipperyman573 wrote: post #296

This post looked kind of weird to me so I looked up the whois, it's registered to godaddy. Which is odd because it is not the same registrar as amazon.com or aws, and aws operates a domain registration service so I can't imagine a real amazon service would use godaddy. Combined with the fact that there's no concrete plans set in place, it seems really fake.

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