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Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by lollerk »

paganel wrote: post #21

Unreal, a month ago (February 7th) I was posting this news story [1] related to the city of Shenzen which was about to be put into some form of lockdown, it only received one upvote. A month from that event and we have an entire European country (a G7 member to add) under lockdown. I guess the normalcy bias [2] was too strong for too many people until reality hit us hard in the face. [1] https://www.epochtimes.com/gb…

>The opposite of normalcy bias is overreaction, or worst-case scenario bias, in which small deviations from normality are dealt with as signals of an impending catastrophe.

The question is to which one we are closer? That's what I think no one knows. Like how reddit says "2 million will die in the US" and some people say "it's just a flu" the truth maybe between the two half way there or so

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

01100011 wrote: post #12

I'm curious, do we have good data on typical influenza infection rates per month, and if so, are we seeing a sooner than expected drop in influenza transmissions? I figure it would be a good gauge of how well people are adopting safer hygiene protocols.

Influenza statistics vary so heavily year-to-year, I expect it'd be hard to detect the change no matter how well people are adopting better hygiene.

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Post by pbourke »

dpcan wrote: post #10
vkou wrote: post #6

For anyone claiming that this is just a flu: I've never heard of an entire country being shut down because of the flu.

I've never heard of 14 people dying in a 120-bed nursing home of the seasonal flu in a 3 week time span either, but the Coronavirus is making that happen in Kirkland, WA right now. Actually, about 30 people have died, but since they don't have enough tests, they can't say that it was Coronavirus. My wife is an administrator at a Nursing facility that is much larger, and this many people DYING so quickly is terrifying…

It’s more like 18 or 19 confirmed now. 30 of 120 in the facility as of 19 Feb have died. Usually 3-7 per month die.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by vsareto »

paganel wrote: post #21

Unreal, a month ago (February 7th) I was posting this news story [1] related to the city of Shenzen which was about to be put into some form of lockdown, it only received one upvote. A month from that event and we have an entire European country (a G7 member to add) under lockdown. I guess the normalcy bias [2] was too strong for too many people until reality hit us hard in the face. [1] https://www.epochtimes.com/gb…

Prison riots too:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/six-inmates-dead-scores-escape...

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by krrrh »

01100011 wrote: post #12

I'm curious, do we have good data on typical influenza infection rates per month, and if so, are we seeing a sooner than expected drop in influenza transmissions? I figure it would be a good gauge of how well people are adopting safer hygiene protocols.

This has been seen in Hong Kong already. It's been noted that residents there were very receptive to social distancing measures due to their experience with SARS in 2003.

Data provided by the government’s Centre for Health Protection show the incidence of infection with influenza had fallen to less than 1 per cent by the end of February, marking an end to the winter flu season, which normally extends to the end of March or into April.

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Ho Pak-leung, a leading microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said data showed the flu season had shortened from an average of 98.7 days to 34 days this year.

https://www.ft.com/content/ad7ae6b4-5eab-11ea-b0ab-339c2307b...

* Twitter link to above to possibly bypass paywall: https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status/1236491746541895685?s=2...

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by oarabbus_ »

fosk wrote: post #9

Italy is a country of 60M+ people and the 8th largest economy in the world, with a very high national debt and that significantly relies on tourism for its economy. Above and beyond the Coronavirus, this can terribly affect the long-term solvency of the country.

The ripple effect of potential Italian bank defaults will ripple throughout the EU and the USA as well.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Post by danielovichdk »

paganel wrote: post #21

Unreal, a month ago (February 7th) I was posting this news story [1] related to the city of Shenzen which was about to be put into some form of lockdown, it only received one upvote. A month from that event and we have an entire European country (a G7 member to add) under lockdown. I guess the normalcy bias [2] was too strong for too many people until reality hit us hard in the face. [1] https://www.epochtimes.com/gb…

One upvote? Are we supposed to feel sorry for your karma craving personality?
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