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Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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The government is calling to unity, and the situation is tragic enough that no-one can ignore the call. However the left wing (and the current ruling coalition) has some serious responsibilities here, and I hope they are held accountable once this mess is over. A few weeks ago we were told that 'the only virus there is, is racism', implying that people worried about the virus spreading were doing so because of an ant…

Since genome analysis has shown that the Italian strain came from Germany, they were right in denouncing racism against Chinese people living in Italy. Just like it's now incorrect to treat Italy like the European Wuhan.

I am not sure how you can say the government's response is worse than other countries, where other governments are doing absolutely nothing even after they reached a thousand cases.

(BTW the right spelling of your otherwise beautiful nick should be furioterzapi).

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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I'm curious, do we have good data on typical influenza infection rates per month, and if so, are we seeing a sooner than expected drop in influenza transmissions? I figure it would be a good gauge of how well people are adopting safer hygiene protocols.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Left or right, all governments seem to be doing less than stellar job fighting this, to say the least. I don't understand why it is relevant.

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> I think Italy is doing a bit worse that all other governments

It is the first western government to fucking react (even if forced to) and show everyone else the road ahead. And everyone else keeps acting like they hope it's not going to happen to them.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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For anybody living in quarantined areas of Italy. How much has your daily life been affected?

Lockdown in Italy is a concept that is difficult to enforce. And it's probably very different to what it means in China or even just South Korea or any other more organised and centrally governed country in Europe like France. But in essence: Schools are closed until next month. People can still move around freely for work reasons, and in general people still work in offices. Bars and restaurants close after 18pm. Sh…

Completely random and off-topic. I'm in the US and used to 12-hour time. I personally prefer 24-hour time, and am comfortable with 18:00 or similar for a time indicator. I don't know that I've ever seen a 24-hour time with am/pm attached to it. Is this common?

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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For anybody living in quarantined areas of Italy. How much has your daily life been affected?

I have been reviewing the situation with a colleague of mine, and we have now realized that the new measures are not enough. It makes no sense to allow burger king or any bar to stay open util 6 p.m. And it makes no sense to allow to go to work for any undeferrable (or also deferrable) reason. The only effective measure seems logically to be quarantine, and for me and my family (2+2), from tomorrow afternoon quarantine will be. The government will finally arrive to the same conclusion, but a later stage. At the moment they seem to be still trying to balance the counteracting of the epidemic and the economic damage, but to us that's not the correct thing to do.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Left or right, all governments seem to be doing less than stellar job fighting this, to say the least. I don't understand why it is relevant.

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I do not believe it is left-wing or right-wing specific behavior. We are seeing the issue being handled the same way across the world. So, making a political statement does not contribute anything. If you remove the "left-wing", the point would be equally valid.

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I'm curious, do we have good data on typical influenza infection rates per month, and if so, are we seeing a sooner than expected drop in influenza transmissions? I figure it would be a good gauge of how well people are adopting safer hygiene protocols.

Way too soon for that, but it will be investigated in the future.

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Italy is a country of 60M+ people and the 8th largest economy in the world, with a very high national debt and that significantly relies on tourism for its economy. Above and beyond the Coronavirus, this can terribly affect the long-term solvency of the country.

Fully agreed, this is a big concern of mine as well. We've got a 2 week trip planned to Italy in May, but that is likely to get cancelled this week based on the growing concerns throughout the country. I am fully expecting to reschedule our same trip later in the year, but until the virus starts to slow down significantly, I'm not comfortable rebooking.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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The government is calling to unity, and the situation is tragic enough that no-one can ignore the call. However the left wing (and the current ruling coalition) has some serious responsibilities here, and I hope they are held accountable once this mess is over. A few weeks ago we were told that 'the only virus there is, is racism', implying that people worried about the virus spreading were doing so because of an ant…

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