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Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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For anybody living in quarantined areas of Italy. How much has your daily life been affected?

writing from Pavia(Lombardia), 15 min of drive from the city where the first cases have developed. There is less people on the street but still too many people conducting normal life, taking public transport or having drinks etc in crowded places. These new measures are meant to force to change lifestyle and be more conscious of the risks. Daily life has changed in that you stay at home, work at home,think twice every time you need to go to the store: do I really need it? It's a possible vehicle of contagion, do I really need to get out? Being stuck at home is not easy but neighter as easy nor as terrible as some would think: it simply has to be done.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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The government is calling to unity, and the situation is tragic enough that no-one can ignore the call.

However the left wing (and the current ruling coalition) has some serious responsibilities here, and I hope they are held accountable once this mess is over. A few weeks ago we were told that 'the only virus there is, is racism', implying that people worried about the virus spreading were doing so because of an anti-Chinese sentiment. The other popular talking point was that there are more flu deaths every year, so one shouldn't worry.

I see a link between this attitude and the current disaster.

The situation is bad, though. I was particularly shocked by an ICU medic from Lombardia declaring that in his hospital they cannot treat all the patients, and that they have to select those that appear to have the highest survival chances, something you do in times of war.

(throwaway since my coworkers know my username here, and they wouldn't like my political opinions, I hope this is allowed, otherwise please remove.)

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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The government is calling to unity, and the situation is tragic enough that no-one can ignore the call. However the left wing (and the current ruling coalition) has some serious responsibilities here, and I hope they are held accountable once this mess is over. A few weeks ago we were told that 'the only virus there is, is racism', implying that people worried about the virus spreading were doing so because of an ant…

Left or right, all governments seem to be doing less than stellar job fighting this, to say the least. I don't understand why it is relevant.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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The government is calling to unity, and the situation is tragic enough that no-one can ignore the call. However the left wing (and the current ruling coalition) has some serious responsibilities here, and I hope they are held accountable once this mess is over. A few weeks ago we were told that 'the only virus there is, is racism', implying that people worried about the virus spreading were doing so because of an ant…

Left or right, all governments seem to be doing less than stellar job fighting this, to say the least. I don't understand why it is relevant.

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Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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For anybody living in quarantined areas of Italy. How much has your daily life been affected?

Lockdown in Italy is a concept that is difficult to enforce. And it's probably very different to what it means in China or even just South Korea or any other more organised and centrally governed country in Europe like France. But in essence: Schools are closed until next month. People can still move around freely for work reasons, and in general people still work in offices. Bars and restaurants close after 18pm. Shops are closed only on weekends. People over 65 have free deliveries from most supermarkets, but very few use them. Big groups of people are not allowed outside public places. The social structure in Italy is still very much based on families, so people will remain with their close relatives and go out for a walk around home.

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Italy is a country of 60M+ people and the 8th largest economy in the world, with a very high national debt and that significantly relies on tourism for its economy. Above and beyond the Coronavirus, this can terribly affect the long-term solvency of the country.

Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country

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For anyone claiming that this is just a flu: I've never heard of an entire country being shut down because of the flu.

I've never heard of 14 people dying in a 120-bed nursing home of the seasonal flu in a 3 week time span either, but the Coronavirus is making that happen in Kirkland, WA right now. Actually, about 30 people have died, but since they don't have enough tests, they can't say that it was Coronavirus.

My wife is an administrator at a Nursing facility that is much larger, and this many people DYING so quickly is terrifying.

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