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Is Jack too woke for you or not woke enough? Hard to make sense of your criticisms...what do you envision twitter should be?
That's not a dimension I care much about. As a product, it's stagnant. I think it could be a much better product. Better meaning serving a wider audience and serving different people in different ways.
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On Facebook you're bound to your friends/family/co-workers/etc, on Reddit you're bound to the shallowest lowest common denominator content (front page) or else endless spam and self-promotion (sort by new.) Twitter is where you're meaningfully in control of who you follow and what you see. That means it's on you to curate that, and many won't want to do that. I was on Twitter for a while before I found the real niche…
Counterpoint: My friends/family/co-workers are not trolls. Twitter is optimized for fake identities, and for virally spreading the most sensationalistic content.
Sure, mine are simply uninteresting and that's why Facebook isn't a viable place to get content.
> Twitter is optimized for fake identities, and for virally spreading the most sensationalistic content.
This is the common sentiment about Twitter spread by outsiders, but I don't understand it. As I said, it only has to be your Twitter experience if you situate yourself in those conditions. The difference with Twitter is that it's the best place to avoid that experience if you choose to put in effort. And if you don't put in effort, your experience anywhere is going to be chosen for you, and bad.
If I wanted to get on Twitter and complain about Hillary or Trump all day then sure, I'm either going to be preaching to a bubble or fighting with trolls. But that's just one way to use Twitter, not the one I'm interested in, and I don't understand why it's become synonymous with the Twitter experience.
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#83Hah! This is funny in all sorts of ways. Supposed "activist" investors settling for a quick ransom. Twitter paying the ransom by taking money from possibly worse people. Twitter paying $2 bn in ransom for Jack , the guy who is at best a half-time CEO, and who has presided over a mix of stagnation and deck-chair rearrangement. And of course the online panic that this was going to be a Trump-allied guy's way of dominat…
>And of course the online panic that this was going to be a Trump-allied guy's way of dominating Twitter when it was just another cash grab. In what way is Elliot "Trump-allied"? He seems like the kind of institutional conservative investor that would hate Trump's attempts at, essentially, implementing a Neo-merchantilist trade and financial policy.
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> Twitter is awesome because it doesn't operate under the growth for growths sake mentality plaguing many other companies. Is that really true though? They've been a huge beneficiary of fake news, astroturfing and bots. They've only relatively recently started to do something resembling policing of these things.
On Facebook you're bound to your friends/family/co-workers/etc, on Reddit you're bound to the shallowest lowest common denominator content (front page) or else endless spam and self-promotion (sort by new.) Twitter is where you're meaningfully in control of who you follow and what you see. That means it's on you to curate that, and many won't want to do that. I was on Twitter for a while before I found the real niche…
I feel the same with Twitter. Although it has very high quality content and more interesting people, I think the baseline is lower than on reddit. Reddit is topic instead of celebrity oriented which is far more enjoyable for me. But true, I wouldn't like to put in effort to curate anything.
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What would you say is a significant problem with Twitter? I'm interested in what you think would make Twitter a better service for its users.
I think one of Twitter's big mistakes is to go for a one-size-fits-all product. For example, in shifting away from a time-based timeline to the algorithmic timeline they've made it worse for advanced users in an effort to juice user activity metrics among less engaged users. That could be fine if they let other people build successful Twitter clients, but the put the kibosh on that long ago. This makes them more ad d…
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That's not a dimension I care much about. As a product, it's stagnant. I think it could be a much better product. Better meaning serving a wider audience and serving different people in different ways.
build it then and become a billionaire. We'll be waiting.
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I think one of Twitter's big mistakes is to go for a one-size-fits-all product. For example, in shifting away from a time-based timeline to the algorithmic timeline they've made it worse for advanced users in an effort to juice user activity metrics among less engaged users. That could be fine if they let other people build successful Twitter clients, but the put the kibosh on that long ago. This makes them more ad d…
For the longest time, a one-size-fits all product was Twitter's strongest value proposition. I disagree about the single model of discussion, and its inability to handle longer blocks of text. To me, these are some of the most significant ways for Twitter to distinguish itself as a social media platform. I don't think Twitter will ever be a place you go to for a quality conversation. It was never intended for that. A…
Twitter wasn't intended for anything. It was an experiment that caught on. Almost everything that distinguishes Twitter today (retweets, likes, replies, posting links, even the at symbol) were all things users invented. Twitter just observed what people were doing and added support. Most of what I'm talking about is in that exact same tradition.
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Sorta. This feels more like Jack/activist investor coming to common ground on the direction of the company and also a proper succession plan for Dorsey to walk away from Twitter. He only owns 2% of the company, and at this point I’d imagine his only options were to strike this truce & have control over how he exits as opposed to be outed right now with a power vacuum causing Twitter to destabilize a bit. I’d expect t…
Any guesses of who they could pick? fwiw I think of all the networks Twitter seems to be the one that actually delivers tangible social utility.
I get real utility out of Facebook that affects the way I live my day to day life.
Twitter is entertaining but if it stopped existing today, my life wouldn't really change at all.
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> Twitter is awesome because it doesn't operate under the growth for growths sake mentality plaguing many other companies. Is that really true though? They've been a huge beneficiary of fake news, astroturfing and bots. They've only relatively recently started to do something resembling policing of these things.
On Facebook you're bound to your friends/family/co-workers/etc, on Reddit you're bound to the shallowest lowest common denominator content (front page) or else endless spam and self-promotion (sort by new.) Twitter is where you're meaningfully in control of who you follow and what you see. That means it's on you to curate that, and many won't want to do that. I was on Twitter for a while before I found the real niche…
This seems to be one of the last avenues FB has left for retaining younger users, who've rejected the friends & family part of it. Even FB knows this type of usage is their future as their Super Bowl ads concentrated on finding like-minded groups.
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Twitter is already a leftist propaganda channel actively engaged in crushing dissent. Perhaps it’s time to balance the scales.
Thats weird because because both Twitter and Facebook were the things that got Trump elected in the first place...