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How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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spiked is funded in part by the Koch Brothers, so it's unsurprising to find them covering a Koch Brothers greatest hit.

I think the criticism in the article resonates with many people and I doubt we see editorialized content. Independence is an issue for newspapers, but it would be dishonest to start here with this topic.

It resonates with many people because it's been drilled into their minds for literal decades. Decades of right-wing academia rejects shouting "I've been silenced!" on literally every media avenue until people actually believed universities were orweillian nightmares (and not just very bland binge-drinking places).

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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post #3

spiked is funded in part by the Koch Brothers, so it's unsurprising to find them covering a Koch Brothers greatest hit.

I think the criticism in the article resonates with many people and I doubt we see editorialized content. Independence is an issue for newspapers, but it would be dishonest to start here with this topic.

Agreed. I'd like to have a discussion about the truthfulness of this event. If it has credibility then we should worry about it and discuss resolutions.

It's unfortunate that HN has already marked this as "dead".

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Worth checking out the track record of the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiked https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-bil...

Are you requesting people confirm that Spiked is approved by a specific orthodoxy before reading the article and judging for themselves?

Reputation of a source matters. An anti-vax publication would rightly get a negative reception here too. This is Hacker News. People shouldn't be posting garbage like this. Go to Reddit.

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Worth checking out the track record of the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiked https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-bil...

Are you requesting people confirm that Spiked is approved by a specific orthodoxy before reading the article and judging for themselves?

You have to be suspicious when a British magazine starts complaining about Chicago University.

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Worth checking out the track record of the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiked https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-bil...

Are you requesting people confirm that Spiked is approved by a specific orthodoxy before reading the article and judging for themselves?

Yeah, I believe in an orthodoxy called "fact checking" and "not being funded by agenda-pursuing, climate change denialist billionaires"

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Worth checking out the track record of the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiked https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-bil...

Can you specify exactly what we should be looking for here? To put it another way, what moved you to post this comment with this content? There must be some takeaway you expect readers to have. What is it?

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the criticism in the article resonates with many people and I doubt we see editorialized content. Independence is an issue for newspapers, but it would be dishonest to start here with this topic.

Agreed. I'd like to have a discussion about the truthfulness of this event. If it has credibility then we should worry about it and discuss resolutions. It's unfortunate that HN has already marked this as "dead".

> HN has already marked this as "dead".

Oh good. I expected that sooner or later. Better that it is dead than on the front page, TBH.

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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post #3

spiked is funded in part by the Koch Brothers, so it's unsurprising to find them covering a Koch Brothers greatest hit.

I think the criticism in the article resonates with many people and I doubt we see editorialized content. Independence is an issue for newspapers, but it would be dishonest to start here with this topic.

If the article is appealing to an existing inclination you have, that's all the more reason to consider the motives of the people writing it.

Re: How woke illiberalism is killing the academy

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Worth checking out the track record of the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine) https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiked https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-bil...

Even Rational Wiki, which is hardly unbiased, doesn't consider it an extreme or unfactual source.
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