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Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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Well nutrition isn't exactly a settled science. There are many problems with studies and as a result we have a wide variety of sometimes contradictory conclusions from them. New conclusions and findings come out but the nutrition community is unable to achieve a consensus understanding on these types of aspects of a diet. There are too many confounding factors involved in studies and it is nearly impossible to design…

There is now enough evidence that there is a good amount of consensus among nutrition researchers: https://wfpb-wolf.netlify.com/consensus.html https://wfpb-wolf.netlify.com/scientific_studies.html

I would not agree with those government diets, without some nuance sprinkled in. Calling all the government bodies published guidelines "scientific consensus" isnt the same thing as scientific consensus.

Vegetables - way too broad a category. Should be split into leaves, stalks, roots, starches, seeds, alliums, brassicaceae, legumes etc. Calling it all "vegetables" makes it hard for people to rank, prioritize, and proportion which are a better use of time, money, and energy to consume. There might be consensus on eating "vegetables" but not necessarily every group of them. Nutritional density is more complicated than "vegetables."

Whole grains - Antithesis to previous point, grains are not categorized as vegetables. Why are whole grains their own recommended category everywhere as a staple part of diets? Is it cost? Industry lobbying? Diet recommendation should focus on leaves and seeds, with cereals as a filler. Cereal portion should be the one controlled to control weight gain, moreso than plant fat from seeds/nuts. We've gotten too comfortable with a huge serving of rice or potatoes with something thrown on top.

Red meat - carcinogens appear to come from preparation methods (browning, curing) and can be mitigated by vegetable intake. https://examine.com/nutrition/does-red-meat-cause-cancer/

Fruit - mostly as not necessary to a healthy diet as this makes it look like. Can be avoided the same way meat is.

Fish (salmon & sardines) and Seafood (mussels) belongs in the consensus part over fruit.

Doesn't touch on fermented food.

The jury is more out on saturated fat and dietary cholesterol than these government bodies want to admit.

Its hard to reverse course quickly and say "everything we said for the last 30 years is wrong."

Almost none of the diet suggestions focus on digestion, absorption.

I just dont see consensus on what percent of a diet should be grain vs vegetable, starches, legumes, fats, meats. Maybe it doesnt matter. "WFPB is the healthiest diet" is very different from "WFPB is one of the healthiest diets."

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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Well nutrition isn't exactly a settled science. There are many problems with studies and as a result we have a wide variety of sometimes contradictory conclusions from them. New conclusions and findings come out but the nutrition community is unable to achieve a consensus understanding on these types of aspects of a diet. There are too many confounding factors involved in studies and it is nearly impossible to design…

Way to make my point for me. The science is settled, but like everything else, untrained people can't tell the difference between a good study and a bad study, and the media reports on them all. Check out the book _How Not to Diet_, which is the most recent masterwork on evidence-based nutrition.

> The science is settled

It doesn't take a domain expert to know this claim is fundamentally wrong. Science is never settled. There are conclusions that stand the test of time and accumulated evidence, but nutrition is a field with precious few of those.

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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There is now enough evidence that there is a good amount of consensus among nutrition researchers: https://wfpb-wolf.netlify.com/consensus.html https://wfpb-wolf.netlify.com/scientific_studies.html

I would not agree with those government diets, without some nuance sprinkled in. Calling all the government bodies published guidelines "scientific consensus" isnt the same thing as scientific consensus. Vegetables - way too broad a category. Should be split into leaves, stalks, roots, starches, seeds, alliums, brassicaceae, legumes etc. Calling it all "vegetables" makes it hard for people to rank, prioritize, and pr…

I should have said, "The consensus is that healthy diets contain mostly whole foods from plants."

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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I would not agree with those government diets, without some nuance sprinkled in. Calling all the government bodies published guidelines "scientific consensus" isnt the same thing as scientific consensus. Vegetables - way too broad a category. Should be split into leaves, stalks, roots, starches, seeds, alliums, brassicaceae, legumes etc. Calling it all "vegetables" makes it hard for people to rank, prioritize, and pr…

I should have said, "The consensus is that healthy diets contain mostly whole foods from plants."

I get the gist of it, I just think whole grains and organ meat / ocean meat might be in the wrong categories.

Mostly plants is one of multiple ways to an optimal diet.

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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I wish I had known about r/vosfinances sooner. As an American I tried to approach my finances from that perspective and encountered lots of roadblocks. Something like ETrade didn’t exist. My bank wanted to handle my money for me and pushing too hard for me to hire their investment team. It was way less friction to open a investment account back int the US and wire money to it. No pushy up sell

Won't you have difficulties in general with all money-related things in Europe as an US American? I've heard stories of banks refusing to create an account for you because it's too much bureacracy... What solution did you eventually find?

Never had a problem with opening accounts. But I also use banks with a big international presence.

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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Dunno about the US, but in the UK there are a few wage points where a small rise can lead to a reduction in net income. Specifically moving into the higher tax bracket, which removes £200 off their personal allowance if they were using the pooling allowance option -- i.e. a £100 tax rise could lead to £46 extra income but £201 extra outgoing, a net reduction of £155 There are more perverse options with housing, child…

This picture show the benefit cliffs in a very clear way: https://sacredcowchips.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/welfare-c... Most important part of that picture: "The single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income & benefits of $57,045."

That's shocking - so much for "one specific demographic", when it affects people earning over twice the median wage.

Re: Reddit has become a guide to personal finance

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/r/programming is not an anomaly. My experience is that programming-related discussion boards everywhere are like this, almost from day one. The rampant tribalism and insistence one groupthink is incredibly strong, to the point where even typos can cause a relentless dogpile and accusations that said person "has clearly never written real software in their life." You simply cannot make even one mistake, no matter how…

>The rampant tribalism and insistence one groupthink is incredibly strong Frankly, that's my perception of HN, too. Try telling someone here that running your own email server is easy, for example, and then prepare to fend off the throngs of people clamoring to be the first to tell you that email is hard (tm), and only fastmail can save us from Google's dragnet, oh also email is deprecated and we should just use sign…

> Try telling someone here that running your own email server is easy

Well, I guess there are different levels of expectations on what easy means. letsencrypt with dovecot and postfix is the definition of complex legacy, but in times where everything is spam that didn't come from domains with dmarc et all... there might be people that think of "what email server is" differently than you.

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