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Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #46

Our government is led by idiots, this is the result

Hate to break it to you, but nearly all governments are led by idiots who don't know anything and don't care to know. Becoming a non-idiot is hard, time consuming work that's incompatible with politics needed to get elected into a public office. At least our executive branch had enough common sense to ban flights from China on Jan 31st (and was panned by the "free press" and Democrats in congress for it at the time).…

Italy banned all flights from China on the same day that the U.S. did:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-10/italy-s-h...

> Italy on Jan. 31 suspended flights to and from China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan in a bid to prevent the spread of the deadly coronavirus. The ban, due to last until April 28, was the first by a European Union member. The Czech government later followed suit.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #46

Our government is led by idiots, this is the result

Hate to break it to you, but nearly all governments are led by idiots who don't know anything and don't care to know. Becoming a non-idiot is hard, time consuming work that's incompatible with politics needed to get elected into a public office. At least our executive branch had enough common sense to ban flights from China on Jan 31st (and was panned by the "free press" and Democrats in congress for it at the time).…

You're already on your way to having tens of thousands of infections.

But because it's absolutely false that "all governments are led by idiots", countries with good health care systems are raising awareness of the severity of the issue and taking effective measures.

The US isn't a first-world country; but it is a very rich thirld-world nation.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

#63
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Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

The U.S. presidency and Congress are elected via a majority vote, not unanimous vote.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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> Health insurance is good enough until surprise they don't want to cover you or you get surprise bills in the mail from the hospital. Constantly amazed this can be a thing in a first world country. Can this actually happen?

It happens all the time here; it's ridiculous. At my company's last benefits meeting (where they go over the yearly changes to our insurance coverage) a coworker described a situation where they had a surgery at an in network (accepted by our insurance) hospital, with in network surgeons and nurses, but was assigned an out of network anesthesiologist without his knowledge, and later got a giant bill for it (well over…

I'd like to see a legal limit to this out-of-network billing. If you limit them to the medicare reimbursement rate, I think this would stop happening.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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> Health insurance is good enough until surprise they don't want to cover you or you get surprise bills in the mail from the hospital. Constantly amazed this can be a thing in a first world country. Can this actually happen?

A close friend of mine's wife paid their health insurance for decades, without fail. Their employer changed the insurance provider without notification, but somehow they continued paying the wrong provider. She recently got breast cancer, and now the new provider is denying all claims on the basis that she was paying the wrong provider. They are basically screwed now after maintaining a non-deliquent relationship wit…

> somehow they continued paying the wrong provider

How does it happen that the wrong (old) provider still accepts money if they no longer cover you? Can this be used as a legal argument that the old provider is on the hook for coverage since they continued taking the money?

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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> Health insurance is good enough until surprise they don't want to cover you or you get surprise bills in the mail from the hospital. Constantly amazed this can be a thing in a first world country. Can this actually happen?

It happens all the time here; it's ridiculous. At my company's last benefits meeting (where they go over the yearly changes to our insurance coverage) a coworker described a situation where they had a surgery at an in network (accepted by our insurance) hospital, with in network surgeons and nurses, but was assigned an out of network anesthesiologist without his knowledge, and later got a giant bill for it (well over…

Maybe before a surgery, gather all of the hospital staff who are going to attend, and record a video while saying "I do not consent to working with anyone from out of network. If you are an out of network physician, I do not consent to be your patient." That ought to be interesting in court if they bill you. Really, the onus of responsibility is between your insurance company and the hospital (i.e. paying and billing party). If they fail, it needs to be something resolved between them. Because that's their fucking job.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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It happens all the time here; it's ridiculous. At my company's last benefits meeting (where they go over the yearly changes to our insurance coverage) a coworker described a situation where they had a surgery at an in network (accepted by our insurance) hospital, with in network surgeons and nurses, but was assigned an out of network anesthesiologist without his knowledge, and later got a giant bill for it (well over…

I'd like to see a legal limit to this out-of-network billing. If you limit them to the medicare reimbursement rate, I think this would stop happening.

Banning networks would be less drastic than setting out of network prices to Medicare.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It happens all the time here; it's ridiculous. At my company's last benefits meeting (where they go over the yearly changes to our insurance coverage) a coworker described a situation where they had a surgery at an in network (accepted by our insurance) hospital, with in network surgeons and nurses, but was assigned an out of network anesthesiologist without his knowledge, and later got a giant bill for it (well over…

Maybe before a surgery, gather all of the hospital staff who are going to attend, and record a video while saying "I do not consent to working with anyone from out of network. If you are an out of network physician, I do not consent to be your patient." That ought to be interesting in court if they bill you. Really, the onus of responsibility is between your insurance company and the hospital (i.e. paying and billing…

You clearly haven't dealt with these guys. The hospital can charge whatever it feels like and the insurance pays whatever it feels like. And the patient sits in the middle and has to figure it out.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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> Health insurance is good enough until surprise they don't want to cover you or you get surprise bills in the mail from the hospital. Constantly amazed this can be a thing in a first world country. Can this actually happen?

A close friend of mine's wife paid their health insurance for decades, without fail. Their employer changed the insurance provider without notification, but somehow they continued paying the wrong provider. She recently got breast cancer, and now the new provider is denying all claims on the basis that she was paying the wrong provider. They are basically screwed now after maintaining a non-deliquent relationship wit…

Interesting. Is a defense mechanism to this then to use the healthcare at least once every period you're comfortable with? I have Kaiser Platinum and looks like I'm about to start requesting monthly tests on things.

Co-pay is about $10, so for $10 a month I can guarantee my healthcare is working.

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