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Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by bobcostas55 »

glofish wrote: post #16
patmorgan23 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is FUD. Comprehensive testing and isolation is the only thing that can contain a pandemic. There's so little data available every additional point is valuable.

testing should not be done Random Joe at home! there is tons of data, it helps no one when unqualified people add to the noise, you think it helps you, but the tragedy that it only makes things worse

There is absolutely not tons of data, the CDC and FDA have been trying to manipulate the infection figures by preventing people from being tested. Have a look at this thread from a former FDA commissioner, which was posted on Feb 2(!) https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/12240422206653071...

It took another month for things to seriously change after that was posted. South Korea, a nation of 50 million people, has tested 150,000. The US figure is hard to track but it's at around 2,000 right now. There are almost certainly thousands of people in the US who are infected but have not been tested.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by joe_the_user »

Korea is doing drive-through testing with results available in three days. [1] That the US is still at the level of doing testing in a private and haphazard fashion is effectively criminal and seems likely to have a serious impact fairly soon. The US had a difficult time even testing all the workers at the nursing home in Washington where 11 people died.[2]

[1] https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-south-korea-uses-driv...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/coronavirus-nursing-ho...

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by TotempaaltJ »

eeh wrote: post #37
fancyfredbot wrote: post #22

This is very admirable of Bill, but it seems odd that the world's biggest economy is reliant on hand-outs to keep its citizens healthy.

I think many countries could benefit from home testing. The US is perhaps just easier to trial this technology for the Gates foundation, for whatever reason. Perhaps the plan is to trial/roll this out elsewhere if it succeeds.

Note that GP _isn't_ criticizing the home testing, or the fact that Gates is distributing home tests in the US.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

extralegos wrote: post #38
nostromo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*then Quite often people don't vote for their own self-interest because they believe in a greater good or a larger principle. This is a good thing.

What “greater good” are you talking about? You think people just love Bill gates so they want to live in a dystopia for him? Is the “greater good” Bill Gates’ bank accounts that keep getting bigger every day, despite his perpetual generosity?

Most people's basic principles aren't particularly related to how rich Bill Gates is.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by m0zg »

bshoemaker wrote: post #26

Our government is led by idiots, this is the result

Hate to break it to you, but nearly all governments are led by idiots who don't know anything and don't care to know. Becoming a non-idiot is hard, time consuming work that's incompatible with politics needed to get elected into a public office.

At least our executive branch had enough common sense to ban flights from China on Jan 31st (and was panned by the "free press" and Democrats in congress for it at the time). Had they not, we'd be dealing with tens of thousands of infections and thousands of deaths by now, as exemplified by Italy.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by [deleted] »

glofish wrote: post #16
patmorgan23 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is FUD. Comprehensive testing and isolation is the only thing that can contain a pandemic. There's so little data available every additional point is valuable.

testing should not be done Random Joe at home! there is tons of data, it helps no one when unqualified people add to the noise, you think it helps you, but the tragedy that it only makes things worse

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by [deleted] »

glofish wrote: post #25
legionof7 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could test myself continuously, I would. Why would you not?

because it never works like that, never that simple, there are always bigger costs in the end this will be used against you and others next thing you know you are not allowed on a bus if you haven't tested yourself today

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by maximente »

tanto wrote: post #15
natalyarostova wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

elected representatives aren't perfectly rational robots that take in each of their constituents' inputs into a fancy weighted matrix and produce a vote accordingly and without concern for anything else. in fact, a big issue is that upon assuming office one's priorities can (and often do) immediately shift so far as to essentially ignore whatever was promised while campaigning - there aren't exactly contracts or anything. it's not uncommon to just blatantly lie about what you'll (not) do then do it, especially if maintaining/increasing power level is on your list.

a better analogy would be something like: your options are ordering one of a few dubious multi-year long supplies of food [politicians] from a couple of entrenched vendors [parties], without any real assurances of what's under the covers [promises, etc.], and with a hefty dose of marketing and falsehoods surrounding all of them [us vs. them, tribal stuff]. or trying to do it all yourself [run for office yourself], which is a huge undertaking and draws ire/counter efforts from all the established players.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Post by wbronitsky »

glofish wrote: post #25
legionof7 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could test myself continuously, I would. Why would you not?

because it never works like that, never that simple, there are always bigger costs in the end this will be used against you and others next thing you know you are not allowed on a bus if you haven't tested yourself today

I think that the argument “it never works like that” should be coupled with at least one data point.

I don’t think it’s helpful to dismiss other commenters based upon simply your opinion, and not a set of facts we can all inspect together.

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