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Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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the irony is that if these are not already FDA-approved devices, then selling them (and even giving them, I think) to consumers will be illegal. it seems clear that the regulations would be harming the public interest and should not be enforced, but you could imagine a scenario where there was a politician with a political grudge against a liberal city like Seattle.

Not anymore. That restriction has been removed [PDF link]: https://www.fda.gov/media/135659/download

This is great news. We can learn from this pandemic that during Public Emergencies, humanity needs to come together and defeat our threat - democracies are thought of as a "giant ship" that's impossible to move during emergencies and cannot compete with authoritarian regimes such as China where a drone escorts you back to your own house; this kind of exclusionary and temporary exceptions backed by scientific consensus and truth (which is often clouded by the fog of authoritarian stronghold on censorship), we can be as nimble and come out more educated than ever.

Emergency powers in the western democracies (North America and Europe) are an important aspect of governance and should be routined examined for effectiveness (mock exercises and simulations), efficiency and combating the threat during the most dire times. Coronavirus is not an existential threat but as a thought exercise we can imagine one that has a serious chance of killing 50% of the earth population. Or some serious evil on planet is threatening human existence on earth - incoming asteriod or terrorist organization with AI capabilities. I sound like an alarmist, I know, but the point of this thought exercise is not to induce panic but build a better governance system that can protect the public without giving up civil liberties.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #10

If anything sets a bad precedent, citizens starting testing themselves and each other, what could possibly go wrong (sarcasm)... Should we test for flu, cold as well? All other diseases? Should you only be allowed to be somewhere if you tested yourself within the last N hours ... etc .. because that is the next step, looking at each other with suspicion. When did you last test yourself? Did you not test yourself? Why…

This is FUD. Comprehensive testing and isolation is the only thing that can contain a pandemic. There's so little data available every additional point is valuable.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #10

If anything sets a bad precedent, citizens starting testing themselves and each other, what could possibly go wrong (sarcasm)... Should we test for flu, cold as well? All other diseases? Should you only be allowed to be somewhere if you tested yourself within the last N hours ... etc .. because that is the next step, looking at each other with suspicion. When did you last test yourself? Did you not test yourself? Why…

If I could test myself continuously, I would. Why would you not?

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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Feudalism

Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #10

If anything sets a bad precedent, citizens starting testing themselves and each other, what could possibly go wrong (sarcasm)... Should we test for flu, cold as well? All other diseases? Should you only be allowed to be somewhere if you tested yourself within the last N hours ... etc .. because that is the next step, looking at each other with suspicion. When did you last test yourself? Did you not test yourself? Why…

This is FUD. Comprehensive testing and isolation is the only thing that can contain a pandemic. There's so little data available every additional point is valuable.

testing should not be done Random Joe at home!

there is tons of data, it helps no one when unqualified people add to the noise,

you think it helps you, but the tragedy that it only makes things worse

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

*then

Quite often people don't vote for their own self-interest because they believe in a greater good or a larger principle. This is a good thing.

Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

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Re: Gates Foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19 in Seattle

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so far has been worthless.

I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people which promise them they will basically destroy governmental institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining about the cook...

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