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Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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So you’re telling me the “crazy hippies” who demand to buy only local honey from local farms were actually right? That it is actually better for you? Guess I’ll have to start finding local honey.

Honey is mostly sugar, there isn't anything "better" about it.

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

#22
post #7

So you’re telling me the “crazy hippies” who demand to buy only local honey from local farms were actually right? That it is actually better for you? Guess I’ll have to start finding local honey.

i'm pretty far from a crazy hippie, but i always buy local honey when i can - local honeys always have more interesting flavours, don't cost any more than generic grocery store honey does, and are relatively easy to find. there's not really any downside.

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #9

Another downside of globalization, it has become cheap and easy to move food items across the world, so Vietnamese sugar syrup can be sold here as "honey" and it becomes a race to the bottom - actual honey producers either go out of business or have to do the same thing. Then a free trade advocate will point to how much the consumer price of "honey" has declined to show how well it works. This should be straight up r…

> so Vietnamese sugar syrup can be sold here as "honey"

Come again?[1][2]

> it takes an NMR machine to know differently

Does it really?[3]

[1] https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/PDF---Guidance-for-...

[2] https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_108.html

[3] http://www.aoacofficialmethod.org/index.php?main_page=produc...

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

#24
My father in law and my brother in law keep bees. My brother in law told me about a disgusting practice where firms imported honey from China, filtered it, then added local honey and then exported the honey as bio-honey.

Sometimes I wonder if we could develop hardware tools to test for psychopathy or just low empathy and just hot-iron-brand these disgusting individuals.

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #7

So you’re telling me the “crazy hippies” who demand to buy only local honey from local farms were actually right? That it is actually better for you? Guess I’ll have to start finding local honey.

honey is enzymatically hydrolysed sugar, this means that what sucrose was present in the source nectar is converted to glucose and fructose, these are are much better for digestibility and metabolism.

  Sucrose is a very minor component of honey.
https://honeypedia.info/honey-ingredients-a-comprehensive-li...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #9

Another downside of globalization, it has become cheap and easy to move food items across the world, so Vietnamese sugar syrup can be sold here as "honey" and it becomes a race to the bottom - actual honey producers either go out of business or have to do the same thing. Then a free trade advocate will point to how much the consumer price of "honey" has declined to show how well it works. This should be straight up r…

Why all the talk about globalization?

The problem is US-based companies fraudulently representing sugar syrup as honey. Would it make a difference if they called locally produced sugar syrup “Tennessee Honey”?

The use of Vietnamese syrup over domestic syrup is irrelevant to the overall fraud.

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #7

So you’re telling me the “crazy hippies” who demand to buy only local honey from local farms were actually right? That it is actually better for you? Guess I’ll have to start finding local honey.

> That it is actually better for you? Nutritionally, honey isn't that different from sucrose, so no. It's like the HFCS vs sucrose argument; they're basically the same, and you're still eating sugar. I do actually buy local farm honey, though. It's incredible how you can see and taste difference in monofloral honey.

Mind explaining how it tastes different? I'm curious as to what the difference is.

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #24

My father in law and my brother in law keep bees. My brother in law told me about a disgusting practice where firms imported honey from China, filtered it, then added local honey and then exported the honey as bio-honey. Sometimes I wonder if we could develop hardware tools to test for psychopathy or just low empathy and just hot-iron-brand these disgusting individuals.

You're complaining about "low empathy" and you're in favor of branding humans? Yikes!

Re: Fancy honey might not actually be honey

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post #26
post #9

Another downside of globalization, it has become cheap and easy to move food items across the world, so Vietnamese sugar syrup can be sold here as "honey" and it becomes a race to the bottom - actual honey producers either go out of business or have to do the same thing. Then a free trade advocate will point to how much the consumer price of "honey" has declined to show how well it works. This should be straight up r…

Why all the talk about globalization? The problem is US-based companies fraudulently representing sugar syrup as honey. Would it make a difference if they called locally produced sugar syrup “Tennessee Honey”? The use of Vietnamese syrup over domestic syrup is irrelevant to the overall fraud.

We went through all this same stuff circa 1880-1920 and that's what lead to the rise of "brands" because you didn't know what was in some random white box soap but at least you knew you could trust Dove(TM) soap not to have nasty stuff in it (or whatever, just an example).
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