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The Word from Wuhan

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Little more about the student lead DDOS attack here - https://technode.com/2020/03/02/dingtalk-begs-for-stars-on-c...

On the first day back to school, DingTalk saw over 50 million students and 600,000 teachers in China using its live-streaming feature to hold online classes. OMG! Their infrastructure team must be so proud, I can't imagine the app saw even a one-hundrenth of that much traffic before then.

DingTalk is a product from Alibaba, which also owns Taobao and Alibaba Cloud. DingTalk celebrated 200 million registered users back in August 2019. So this online course surge is probably not that a big stretch for them.

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The most fun anecdote:

Zhang Wenhong, director of the Department of Infectious Diseases at Shanghai’s Huashan Hospital, became a national hero for a press conference speech:

The first-aid team put themselves in great danger. They are tired and need to rest. We shouldn’t take advantage of good people. From now on, I’ll replace all the frontline medics with party members from different sectors. Didn’t you all swear to put the people’s interest first when you joined the party, whatever the difficulties? I don’t care what you were actually thinking when you joined the party. Now it’s time to live up to what you promised. I don’t care if you personally agree or not: it’s non-negotiable.

But good article - read the whole thing.

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Expecting local officials to deal effectively with extraordinary circumstances is unrealistic. A wealthy populous nation should be able to support a team of national experts to assist in times and places of particular need, in a variety of fields including that of infectious disease. The system described in TFA seems rather more like a struggle among competing cults of personality. "Your mayor sucks! Now you will be…

Leadership is exactly about organizing groups of experts to fight against specific threats to the common good.

The point isn't that local officials should have been working in the hospitals, it is that they should have been collecting the infectious disease experts and executing against a containment and mitigation plan.

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Expecting local officials to deal effectively with extraordinary circumstances is unrealistic. A wealthy populous nation should be able to support a team of national experts to assist in times and places of particular need, in a variety of fields including that of infectious disease. The system described in TFA seems rather more like a struggle among competing cults of personality. "Your mayor sucks! Now you will be…

If your problem is “the division of responsibility and authority is disputed” or “collected resources aren’t being distributed due to confusion” or “key workers are distracted by CYA” a respected, competent leader might be just what they need.

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The question remains: what will happen when everyone returns to work and school? I would expect infections to flare up again. What then?

Deal with each new outbreak quickly and efficiently. The problem in Italy and China was that the outbreak got out of hand before measures to deal were in place, the big deal here seems to be that if people in critical conditions get support with breathing they often pull through, if they don't they die. If you are dealing with 1000's of cases providing supported ventilation is not possible. If you are dealing with 10's then it can be done.

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Little more about the student lead DDOS attack here - https://technode.com/2020/03/02/dingtalk-begs-for-stars-on-c...

On the first day back to school, DingTalk saw over 50 million students and 600,000 teachers in China using its live-streaming feature to hold online classes. OMG! Their infrastructure team must be so proud, I can't imagine the app saw even a one-hundrenth of that much traffic before then.

obviously it did. you cannot scale 100x at a moment’s notice

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You can count on the states that have an official number of infected people of about 100 to have about 10000. You can count on US states that have 0 cases for those to have about 1000. We've passed containment options when we didn't do anything about 2 months ago.

People just don't go to the doctors, especially with the news of how people are being treated on the boats.

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The question remains: what will happen when everyone returns to work and school? I would expect infections to flare up again. What then?

In terms of human suffering/death, it's better to spread out the number of sick people over a longer period of time. There's a finite number of hospital beds and doctors, and you'll get better care if there are fewer other people sick at the same time. It's better for the economy, though, if everyone gets sick as soon as possible, so that everyone gets better at the same time and factories can spin back up.
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