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The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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post #47

If you can have the same ad free experience without a token doesn’t that make the token redundant and in long term Occam principle dictates it won’t catch on.

Until content publishers go out of business or lock their content behind paywalls, and the "ad free experience" only has hobbyist blogs and amateurs. A lot of low rent internet chum would also disappear. So maybe that's a fair trade off, but it will also hurt your local newspaper pretty badly. Nobody has really come up with a good sustainable alternative to ad-funded content for a lot of publishers. Brave is one of m…

> A lot of low rent internet chum would also disappear. So maybe that's a fair trade off, but it will also hurt your local newspaper pretty badly.

Wow, we have _completely_ different understandings of the value of the Internet. To me, the (realized) promise of the Internet is not just an additional channel for established media, it's the decentralization of publishing in the first place. "Low rent internet chum" is a consequence of that, but IMO it's been far more than worth the tradeoff.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

#142

Am I the only one who uses brave with all bat stuff off? It's a fork of chromium that's up to date, completely open source, ad blocking and fingerprinting defeating built-in, reader mode, etc. Chrome but just better.

I don't use BAT, but I use Brave. I like that Brave is the best for respecting your privacy: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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post #124

The reason why “the internet is broken” is because of ads. Ads incentivize tracking and clickbait. In the end, ad companies, such as Google and Faceboook, act in the interests of advertisers, not users. Brave is an ad company. On the other hand, companies which are supported by user donations act in the best interests of users. This includes websites such as Wikipedia and the Internet Archive. Brave does offer the op…

I think FREE is the problem. Anything that is free will either find ways to make you pay for it or has other people pay for it. As a bonus you don't have any complaints either since you officially didn't pay. Is Wikimedia acting in users best interest? It really doesn't need to beg for your money but it cant get enough of your money? haha I don't know what it costs to host 250 billion page views per year but they cla…

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Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

#144

Am I the only one who uses brave with all bat stuff off? It's a fork of chromium that's up to date, completely open source, ad blocking and fingerprinting defeating built-in, reader mode, etc. Chrome but just better.

Wait there is a reader mode?

Here is how to enable reader mode in Brave:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22407265

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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post #103

I will not use Brave because I disagree with the legitimacy it gives to ads on the web. I want an ad-free web, or at least an ads-in-anything-like-their-current-form web. If that means the web is 1000x smaller than it currently is, then fine - most of the web today is total garbage anyway. I don't care about jobs supported by ads, because they're another form of 21st century bullshit job and we can invent some other…

Do you believe that we will achieve an ad free web? I agree with your goal, but I think we should not reject improvement in the name of perfection.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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post #61

being in the camp of "nothing ever good comes from adds", I've never considered Brave. A browser is a remote code execution engine for attacker-controlled content. Looking at their bounties on H1 https://hackerone.com/brave/hacktivity they are still solving problems which Mozilla and Google have researched and extinguished long ago. I don't trust Brave to get the security right. Also Ethereum is a scam and doesn't sc…

>Ethereum is a scam and doesn't scale baseless

It's proof of work based crypto, so it doesn't scale. Facts.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe ads should not exist in the world period? How do you justify such a broad-spanning assertion?

I did not say they should not necessarily exist, I said they should not exist in their current form. I also want to go back to the days where websites were a labour of love from individuals, not always for-profit enterprises. Ads right now are attention stealing, privacy invading monsters as a result of an arms race for users' notice. They actively harm users for profit. There are ways to advertise without harming us…

> Ads right now are attention stealing, privacy invading monsters as a result of an arms race for users' notice

All true, and this is why I use Brave. Brave punishes privacy invading ads.

If you opt in to BAT, Brave values attention and gives users control over how the attention value is spent.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

#150

I never really looked into BAT and only use Brave on mobile (mostly then as its UI for its javascript switch is far better than dealing with uMatrix on firefox mobile). I had no idea that the whole thing is yet another altcoin IPO with excellent marketing. They really must be laughing all the way to the bank...

Excellent marketing, with an army of BAT bagholders willing to shill for the product pro bono.
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