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Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

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Re: Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

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post #5

"asking for the rules to be suspended during the outbreak to prevent further environmental and economic damage" It's not like having those planes full of people results in less environmental damage.

The difference is now the flights can be canceled without impact to anyone else.

Re: Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

#15
post #2

This seems like a sensible rule that leads to unwanted behavior in this unforeseen case. Would make sense to grant a temporary exemption.

> This seems like a sensible rule Does it?! Why would you ever want to motivate an airline to fly just for the sake of it? Whether there's a pandemic or not it seems like a bad thing.

Because on the flip side, airlines could keep canceling flights on less popular routes when they're not at full capacity (i.e. not/less profitable). That would inconvenience passengers. Under this regulation they could lose that route to a competitor that is more willing to service customers (or can operate at a lower cost).

EDIT: I found the EU page outlining the regulation here: https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/air/airports/slots_en

EDIT 2: This appears to be a global practice: https://www.iata.org/en/policy/slots/

Re: Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This seems like a sensible rule Does it?! Why would you ever want to motivate an airline to fly just for the sake of it? Whether there's a pandemic or not it seems like a bad thing.

Because otherwise airlines can buy up all the slots so competitors can't operate.

But it's ok with you that they buy up all the slots so competitors can't operate... just so as long as they burn fuel while they do it?

Re: Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

#17
post #12

They are paying for the fuel. So?

Fuel is being burned, creating more CO2, without any benefit to society.

So if I have a corporation I have to benefit society with it? Else what, the government must expropriate my corporation from me?

Re: Airlines flying empty planes to keep flight slots during coronavirus outbreak

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This seems like a sensible rule Does it?! Why would you ever want to motivate an airline to fly just for the sake of it? Whether there's a pandemic or not it seems like a bad thing.

Because on the flip side, airlines could keep canceling flights on less popular routes when they're not at full capacity (i.e. not/less profitable). That would inconvenience passengers. Under this regulation they could lose that route to a competitor that is more willing to service customers (or can operate at a lower cost). EDIT: I found the EU page outlining the regulation here: https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes…

This rule says it's ok to squat on slots just as long as you burn fuel while you do it.
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