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The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by 300bps »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #38

What kind of information from the user does Brave hold and/or give to their ad publishers? And for how long? You are going from a situation where many ad networks receive pieces of information (ok, google 90% of the time) to a single ad network receiving 100% of information, which I don't think is good. Not to mention Brave becomes the gatekeeper of which content publishers receive BAT and I remember there was contro…

I agree. I actually switched to the new Chromium version of Edge with uBlock. I still have Brave on both my iPhone and desktop which is permanently set to block all scripts. I use that for sites with paywall pop ups.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by fullstop »

woutr_be wrote: post #34
latchkey wrote: post #20

I've been clicking the desktop ad notifications like a madman. Earning BAT, then taking that BAT and converting it to an interest bearing stable coin token in DeFi (~8%). Some of the BAT I earn, I also convert into ETH so I can pay for gas, making my transactions 'free'. It has been a fun experiment in playing with this stuff, but it certainly isn't going to make me rich or anything.

I thought you could only use the earned BAT to pay creators? Or has it changed?

You can cash out through Uphold. KYC rules apply.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by mjd »

chrisco255 wrote: post #19
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #13

being in the camp of "nothing ever good comes from adds", I've never considered Brave. A browser is a remote code execution engine for attacker-controlled content. Looking at their bounties on H1 https://hackerone.com/brave/hacktivity they are still solving problems which Mozilla and Google have researched and extinguished long ago. I don't trust Brave to get the security right. Also Ethereum is a scam and doesn't sc…

Brave is Chromium-based...it's literally a fork of the core source code for Chrome, so I don't think it would be any more insecure than that. And with Microsoft forking Chromium for Edge, Chromium should continue to get top-notch support on that front. Ethereum is not a scam. It has evolved a great deal over the past 6 years, and thanks to zero-knowledge proofs, ETH does scale now (up to 2300 transactions a second, w…

> It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads.

It's getting paid with fake money to view ads.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by fullstop »

latchkey wrote: post #20

I've been clicking the desktop ad notifications like a madman. Earning BAT, then taking that BAT and converting it to an interest bearing stable coin token in DeFi (~8%). Some of the BAT I earn, I also convert into ETH so I can pay for gas, making my transactions 'free'. It has been a fun experiment in playing with this stuff, but it certainly isn't going to make me rich or anything.

I've apparently earned 103 BAT since last September. Something is up, though, because I earn way more than estimated at the end of the month.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by cslarson »

Brave is indeed very fast and particularly on mobile it is useful that the ad blocker is built-in. Thigh I think for most normies the fact that no plug-in is needed is underrated. I haven't opted in to ads. They pop up as notifications on mobile and it is very annoying.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by SimeVidas »

mattlondon wrote: post #5

Totally off-topic but I really liked the CSS/design for this site. Simple layout, nice choice of fonts, and a sensible and easy-to-read colour combination for this "wall of text" style presentation. Nice one.

I came here to post the same comment :-D

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by wffurr »

stronghands wrote: post #35

If you can have the same ad free experience without a token doesn’t that make the token redundant and in long term Occam principle dictates it won’t catch on.

Until content publishers go out of business or lock their content behind paywalls, and the "ad free experience" only has hobbyist blogs and amateurs.

A lot of low rent internet chum would also disappear. So maybe that's a fair trade off, but it will also hurt your local newspaper pretty badly.

Nobody has really come up with a good sustainable alternative to ad-funded content for a lot of publishers. Brave is one of many attempts at this, too bad it smells a lot like a crypto currency scam.

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by staticvoidmaine »

mjd wrote: post #43
chrisco255 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave is Chromium-based...it's literally a fork of the core source code for Chrome, so I don't think it would be any more insecure than that. And with Microsoft forking Chromium for Edge, Chromium should continue to get top-notch support on that front. Ethereum is not a scam. It has evolved a great deal over the past 6 years, and thanks to zero-knowledge proofs, ETH does scale now (up to 2300 transactions a second, w…

> It's not fake money. It's getting paid to view ads. It's getting paid with fake money to view ads.

Given that it’s convertible into USD and other “real” currencies, how do you expect this line of reasoning to hold?

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by im3w1l »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #38

What kind of information from the user does Brave hold and/or give to their ad publishers? And for how long? You are going from a situation where many ad networks receive pieces of information (ok, google 90% of the time) to a single ad network receiving 100% of information, which I don't think is good. Not to mention Brave becomes the gatekeeper of which content publishers receive BAT and I remember there was contro…

> I remember there was controversy over them banning someone's account because they didn't like the content.

Source?

Re: The Brave browser is brilliant, but probably not for the reasons you think

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Post by naasking »

azalemeth wrote: post #2

I never really looked into BAT and only use Brave on mobile (mostly then as its UI for its javascript switch is far better than dealing with uMatrix on firefox mobile). I had no idea that the whole thing is yet another altcoin IPO with excellent marketing. They really must be laughing all the way to the bank...

> I had no idea that the whole thing is yet another altcoin IPO with excellent marketing.

Excellent marketing and a useful product with widespread appeal. It's weird that you focus on the coin as if it was the primary goal. It's merely a means to an end, and one of the best real-world uses of cryptocurrency that I've seen.

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