I don't get the reaction here. The online service will be shut down but the bulbs will continue to be locally controllable and Philips is releasing a dedicated app to interact with the v1 bridge. Is it really such a huge deal that you can't access your bulbs over the internet? What's the use-case for this? Are you controlling your lights while you're not home? Do you not have access to the network the bulbs are conne…
> can't access your bulbs over the internet
Why not? Does it not work over a normal connection?
This might be one of those "it's a feature, not a bug" dealies. Software is now subject to similar rules of decay and planned obsolescence as hardware and material objects. Guess you just have to go buy a new one under whatever pay structure is the current paradigm.
Except the vast majority of material objects don't decay, or at least don't decay quickly. The hoe I use for de-weeding my garden was my great grandfathers, and is probably 100 years old. It functions pretty much the same as it did when it was new. My father had to put one new screw in it I remember, so it has served its purpose continuously for 100 years with ~20 minutes of maintenance. A similar small bit of softwa…
A hoe is a very simple tool. You could say something equivalent of `cat`: the software is pretty much done, no need for particular maintenance, and it will work in 30 years time. If we still use UNIXes in 100 years time, I don't see `cat` failing either.
You wouldn't say the same things about a tractor, or about, say, Firefox
The V1 bridge does not require any outside access from an Echo device -- it communicates directly with the bridge over the local network. With V2 it requires a skill, a Hue account, and access from the internet to the bridge.
Are you sure it requires access from the internet to the bridge for V2? I think it may only require that the bridge can access the internet. I have a V2 with "Out of home control" set to disabled and it works fine with my Echo Dot and with the Amazon Alexa apps on my phone and iPad. My guess is that the bridge sends status information, including the bridge's IP address, to the Hue site, and the Echo can retrieve that…
You're probably right. I was trying to say that the v2 bridge requires some sort of cloud service to function with an echo when the v1 did not.
Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…
> IPv4 no longer exists I hope you're right, but i'm not entirely convinced. IPv4 has proven to very resilient. A survey in Denmark of pretty much all ISPs reveals that most, if not all, of the large ISPs have absolutely no plans for migrating to IPv6. Not as "not right now", but as "no plans at all". Some of them have plans for migrating business customers, but no plans for residential. We'll end up with companies r…
At least here in Germany, my ISP doesn't even give me a publically routed ipv4 by default anymore. Ipv6 no problem though.
What actually is a 4to6 gateway? For example, how would an IPv4 client connect to a 128-bit address like 2606:4700:20::6819:6c0d?
I can imagine a weird contraption of a custom DNS server that tracks client requests, returns unique private IPv4 addresses and simultaneously tells to some NAT-PT engine that this source IPv4 address talking to that destination IPv4 address needs to be translated to that IPv6 address. I can imagine this to be extremely fragile and break whenever an IP address is looked up using any different manner than plain DNS (e…
Just return the same IP for everything and check the Host header or SNI name to know where to forward requests to
https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=hospitality%20tv&searchscope... These are TVs with the smart stuff removed for use in enterprise/hotels that don't want it. Pick your favorite!
> 403 Error: Access Forbidden > We’re sorry, but you don’t have access to this page. Could be because of GDPR :/
>Could be because of GDPR :/
I can get to that page from Italy, so no, it must be something else.
>for 100 years with ~20 minutes of maintenance. While I get your point, are you honestly saying a hoe has lasted 100 years and still completely usable to its original standards with absolutely no sharpening, oiling, cleaning or care of any kind other than changing a screw? Stainless steel wasn't exactly common back then, so I'm assuming this hoe was probably iron with a wooden handle? The iron would definitely need t…
To give a better and perhaps more relevant example: The wiring and many electrical devices in my house are over half a century old, yet all the switches and outlets still function perfectly fine.
Just to make a counterpoint. The wiring and many electrical devices in my house are over half a century old, the entire circuit breaker panel needed to be replaced a few years ago, the light in the bathroom actually just stopped working a couple weeks ago, i've replaced both the switch and the light fixture itself, but still no light so it's looking like it may be damage to the wiring, outlets are extremely easy to overload and a couple just don't work at all, there's actually an extension cord running from the basement through the floor connected to a working outlet there to replace one of the non-functional outlets.
...which all the digital assistants like Google Home or Alexa use, so this breaks voice commands for those. For most people, that's the main reason to have smart lights.
FWIW if you use HomeKit with a hub then it’s Apple’s servers not Phillips’ that do the external traffic.
That's specifically if you're using HomeKit remotely - if you're using HomeKit locally it works without internet connectivity, unlike Alexa/Google Home.
I don't get the reaction here. The online service will be shut down but the bulbs will continue to be locally controllable and Philips is releasing a dedicated app to interact with the v1 bridge. Is it really such a huge deal that you can't access your bulbs over the internet? What's the use-case for this? Are you controlling your lights while you're not home? Do you not have access to the network the bulbs are conne…
> can't access your bulbs over the internet Why not? Does it not work over a normal connection?
I can access my Hue bulbs over the internet without using Phillips' servers. I doubt Phillips' app will do this, but there are other apps that will, such as Hue Pro.