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Comparing TP Link (wifi connected) bulb with Hue - the former reacts a lot quicker than tp link after boot (if you are using the normal switch).
Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…
> IPv4 no longer exists I hope you're right, but i'm not entirely convinced. IPv4 has proven to very resilient. A survey in Denmark of pretty much all ISPs reveals that most, if not all, of the large ISPs have absolutely no plans for migrating to IPv6. Not as "not right now", but as "no plans at all". Some of them have plans for migrating business customers, but no plans for residential. We'll end up with companies r…
The world is at 26% adoption.
So, Philips Hue users need a new $60 bridge after 8 years? That actually seems reasonable to me. 8 years is longer support than most other devices.
I don't get the reaction here. The online service will be shut down but the bulbs will continue to be locally controllable and Philips is releasing a dedicated app to interact with the v1 bridge. Is it really such a huge deal that you can't access your bulbs over the internet? What's the use-case for this? Are you controlling your lights while you're not home? Do you not have access to the network the bulbs are conne…
Thid means you can't use Google assistant or Alexa anymore.
The bridge provides a well-documented and stable local API which these assistant devices would be able to use as long as they're on the same network.
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At least until TV manufacturers start having them try and connect to open wifi points or try and piggy back off of a connection thru HDMI ARC.
I recall a comment on HN a few months ago from someone who said they deliberately didn't connect their smart TV to their wifi, but then found that the internet-enabled features were in fact working. Turns out the TV had indeed found an open wifi network on its own and had automatically connected. They had to create a locked-down VLAN on their own network (with no outside connectivity), and connect to that in order to…
The majority of open WiFi networks are WiFi pages with captive portal logins.
Of those, there's a good subset of which you need to pay for.
Sounds more like a case that someone else connected the TV to the WiFi network to browse YouTube and when they discovered it they decided to choose the most farfetched reason.
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Isn't that what a computer screen is?
Sure, but computer monitors are typically much more expensive than TVs of the same size. Computer monitors are designed to be looked up close, which mean they are often at a higher resolution and higher quality. Furthermore, especially with gaming monitors, high refresh rates and low response times are important. A TV only needs 60Hz and response time is mostly irrelevant unless you are console gaming.
Computer monitors are either 1080p, 1440p or 4k in the majority of cases.
If you're looking for a cheap dumb TV, there is no market. The majority of people want YouTube and Netflix built into their TV.
If you want something with a niche use case, then you have to pay niche money.
This forced obsolescence is beginning to get out of hand. I completely understand that running the online portion of this costs money, but that needs factoring in to the business model from the start. I imagine that they didn't think about this when the product first launched in 2012. I do wonder if a u-turn (similar to the one Sonos has just done) will follow after bad media coverage.
First off, the cloud features at best a novelty. My Hue system runs on an standalone wireless network. My phone connects determines local paths, and anyone authenticated can control lights.
Second we're talking about a bit that customers paid Free - $20 for 4-8 years ago. It's not a centerpiece of the system, it's just a prerequisite, and apparently one they tried to keep so cheap it needs to be replaced which reflects well on their commitments to shareholders.
SONOS spent millions on ad dollars, remotely disabled giant expensive hunks of plastic in the name of cultivating "brand loyalty", and each bit cost 6x-40x the Hue hub. SONOS didn't u-turn immediately either, the CEO communica just doubled-down, until PR talked him into steering the ship.
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I love Xiaomi Yeelight smart bulbs. They allow LAN usage even in the official app. There is API documentation. It has been a great experience developing solutions using it.
Afaik on android they require you to grant the app the full contacts access permission to be able to use it. At least that was the case a year ago.
Haven't had the need to do that in the past couple of years, I hope that's still possible.
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> IPv4 no longer exists I hope you're right, but i'm not entirely convinced. IPv4 has proven to very resilient. A survey in Denmark of pretty much all ISPs reveals that most, if not all, of the large ISPs have absolutely no plans for migrating to IPv6. Not as "not right now", but as "no plans at all". Some of them have plans for migrating business customers, but no plans for residential. We'll end up with companies r…
What actually is a 4to6 gateway? For example, how would an IPv4 client connect to a 128-bit address like 2606:4700:20::6819:6c0d?
There's some other tools to facilitate that.
FWIW, I tried playing with IPv6 on my home LAN. all IPv6 intranet, IPv4 on the ISP WAN, all ran fine on OpenWRT routers with a bit of configuration.
So, Philips Hue users need a new $60 bridge after 8 years? That actually seems reasonable to me. 8 years is longer support than most other devices.
If you bought a hammer 8 years ago and the hammer company had a way to "deactivate" certain uses of the hammer so it only worked in a few situations, would you say "8 years is long enough for a hammer, it's perfectly reasonable they force you to buy a new hammer in order for it to work properly." ? Philips has the resources to keep this up and running.
Buy it and never use their cloud services or knowing that it can always disappear - if it doesn't work without Internet connectivity, don't buy it. Doesn't take a genius.