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Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by soneil »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #41
londons_explore wrote: post #32

Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…

> IPv4 no longer exists I hope you're right, but i'm not entirely convinced. IPv4 has proven to very resilient. A survey in Denmark of pretty much all ISPs reveals that most, if not all, of the large ISPs have absolutely no plans for migrating to IPv6. Not as "not right now", but as "no plans at all". Some of them have plans for migrating business customers, but no plans for residential. We'll end up with companies r…

I asked my ISP, and got a template reply telling me they were shooting for late 2017. I asked again in 2018, and received a template reply telling me they were shooting for late 2017. I asked in 2019, and got the same reply ...

They've since changed ownership, so I'm curious if the 2020 reply will still be late 2017.

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by rzr »

jibbit wrote: post #12
Sanzig wrote: post #6

Well - they've done a pretty good job of ensuring that if I get smart lights again, I'm definitely not buying Philips. This change breaks all the digital assistant integrations ("Hey Google, turn on the lights"), which is pretty much the only reason to have smart lights in the first place. If you can't use voice commands, you might as well just use the wall switches. Who wants to pull out their phone and switch the l…

Is there a viable alternative? The website and app are pretty terrible. I assume it's because they have no real competition?

what about mozilla webthings or other floss platform ?

https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/a_mozilla_iot_forcast...

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by p1mrx »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #41
londons_explore wrote: post #32

Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…

> IPv4 no longer exists I hope you're right, but i'm not entirely convinced. IPv4 has proven to very resilient. A survey in Denmark of pretty much all ISPs reveals that most, if not all, of the large ISPs have absolutely no plans for migrating to IPv6. Not as "not right now", but as "no plans at all". Some of them have plans for migrating business customers, but no plans for residential. We'll end up with companies r…

What actually is a 4to6 gateway? For example, how would an IPv4 client connect to a 128-bit address like 2606:4700:20::6819:6c0d?

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by huseyinkeles »

tschellenbach wrote: post #54

When I moved my Philips Hue bridge got damaged. Turns out there is no way (and I tried) to get your lightbulbs to reset and attach to a new bridge. Not very happy with Philips Hue, wish there was a better option out there.

Just hold the hue remote next to the bulb, press and hold I and O until the light starts to flash.

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by whoisjuan »

geerlingguy wrote: post #36
londons_explore wrote: post #32

Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…

Write it in Node.js and it will be obsolete within 6 months!

Nahh. Just "npm update --save/--save-dev" and you will be good. /s

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by jpindar »

thisisauserid wrote: post #18
oarsinsync wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They market their bulbs as having a 15 year life span.

The bridge will still work from your private network and one can still control the lights with the app. All that's being disabled is the external control.

All that's being disabled is external control through Phillips' servers.

If you're willing to set up port forwarding (and DDNS if needed) there are apps that allow you to enter both internal and external addresses, so you can still have external control.

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by legulere »

londons_explore wrote: post #32

Imagine you are designing the web server for some hardware like this. You might write it in Go, dockerized and hosted it in Kubernetes in Google Cloud. You might use a hosted mongo db and 3rd party auth service. Now in 30 years time, Google Cloud will probably no longer exist, your database API will have changed beyond recognition, and your auth service has closed down. IPv4 no longer exists and your hardware depends…

Working on software from the late 80s to 90s also come with its challenges. You’ll have a discontinued third party database engine that is no longer maintained and writing files on smb shares wich more or less regularly breaks. It’s probably written by real plumbers and not software plumbers because they back at the time were more available. If you haven’t constantly adapted the code it for sure doesn’t compile with a modern compiler.

Re: Philips Hue Bridge v1 online services will be shut off after April 2020

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Post by jpindar »

djsumdog wrote: post #31
adgasf wrote: post #22

AFAIK the bulbs are compatible with v1 and v2 hubs, so the bulbs do not need to be replaced. The v1 hubs will continue to work across a local area network. Philips offered a heavily discounted upgrade for v1 hub users to get a new v2 hub. However, I still think they should support the v1 hubs for the lifespan of a typical bulb (15 years), at minimum.

Yea, as long as it works locally and they don't pull the old app .. still it's shitty they're trying to push people to buy new shit they don't need. It's just creating waste to increase sales. The attempt to grow without responsibility really needs to die. Consumerism with the goal of more consumerism is a cancer.

You don't need their app, there are many, many others.
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