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Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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Guess it depends on domain. I've changed the default in Firefox a few weeks ago and find that for "regular" searching DDG is enough that I don't go to Google. But for specialized searches I frequently reach for the Google override, and sure enough Google has significantly better results. Like searching specific, weird errors messages and such.

That’s the thing. The vast majority of my searches are development/coding related. I always find what I’m looking for in the first few returns. I sometimes wonder if I’d get even better results on google?

In my experience yes. But as I said, often the DDG is good enough.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I think I've figured out what is happening when people tell me that DuckDuckGo's results "aren't good enough". What's really happening is that they've been trained to search a certain way to using Google and because DDG doesn't have all the historical data of your searches on their platform they can't fill in the gaps as well. After a couple days using DDG I found the right vocabulary to get good local results and wh…

Please teach me how to use DDG, as I’m clearly missing something. I’m happy to switch to a service that provides better results in exchange for a bit more effort in constructing search queries, but the results I get for that effort really do need to be better. The only specific advise I’ve ever seen is “use !g if you don’t get good results the first time”, which really isn’t encouraging.

It’s not about better results. It’s about good enough results without all the spying.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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The only thing that Google is significantly better at than google in location based searches in the UK i.e. local businesses. DDG map search is wrong for me about 50% of the time.

Everything else is pretty much the same as google or better in some cases (google seems to de-rank certain things). The code snippets when just quickly searching "How do I do in " is quite nice.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I think I've figured out what is happening when people tell me that DuckDuckGo's results "aren't good enough". What's really happening is that they've been trained to search a certain way to using Google and because DDG doesn't have all the historical data of your searches on their platform they can't fill in the gaps as well. After a couple days using DDG I found the right vocabulary to get good local results and wh…

Today I was trying to find info about Corpus Christi - a Polish film that won some awards lately. DDG gives me information about a place in Texas, including stuff from the local newspaper and attractions. I'm searching from a Poland IP btw. Anyway, the actual film was at the very end of the first page of results for me.

It certainly feels like it priotises things weirdly.

Google Maps has a similar issue though: plenty of US placenames are just stolen from European places and oftentimes I'll be trying to get directions to a nearby town and instead it'll navigate to someplace in Alabama instead. Strangely enough, not where I want to go...

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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Also in the UK. It's noticeable that for many search terms, DDG's top autocomplete suggestion is the term you just typed, with "uk" tacked on the end of it. That suggests that many users in the UK are finding DDG's search results to be too US-centric.

This is _by far_ my biggest issue with DDG. I've been trying to use it for most of my searching and I'm fine with having to append '!g' to ~25% of my searches, it's not ideal, but whatever, I can manage. Having to append 'uk' to 90% of searches after the first results page is full of useless American shit, for search terms that Google UK handles flawlessly, gets old, very quick.

Do you have United Kingdom toggled on?

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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It's Lent, so I just searched for "Fish Tacos" and clicked on Map. It showed four places, none of which are anywhere near me. I click on Directions and it takes me to Bing.

Do the same thing on Google, see a dozen places in my neighborhood, and I get Google Maps navigation.

What do you get in your searches for Fish Tacos? Do you have a better experience with DDG?

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I switched over to DDG a few weeks ago. I slowly regressed to more and more !g usage, and finally switched back to GOOG a couple days ago. Then just an hour ago I searched for "google fiber stadia", because I was curious how well they work together. The main reddit result opened in an amp page (and of course reddit pressured me to install the mobile app). I went back to the results and started scrolling down. I hones…

Same boat here. Even for technical searches, which ddg is supposed to be good at, I would routinely find the Google results of much more accuracy and quality. Finally switched back.

Luckily, for the things I search, ads are not usually a problem.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I think I've figured out what is happening when people tell me that DuckDuckGo's results "aren't good enough". What's really happening is that they've been trained to search a certain way to using Google and because DDG doesn't have all the historical data of your searches on their platform they can't fill in the gaps as well. After a couple days using DDG I found the right vocabulary to get good local results and wh…

When I search for Fish Tacos on DDG's maps and Google, it's night and day.

DDG gave me 4 results, none anywhere near me.

Do you have a suggestion for how I could have been more effective?

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