The title is terrible, it should read ketosis/ketones may prevent, reverse age-related effects within the brain. "Low carb" as the title currently reads does not necessarily result in ketosis and your body/brain running on ketones, which appears to be the scope of this study. There is more to dietary ketosis than low carb, just as an example carnivore or paleo diets are low carb, but those will generally not result i…
isn't ketosis very subtle to maintain otherwise it can harmful effects ?
Study: Low Carb Diet May Prevent, Reverse Age-Related Effects Within the Brain
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you have never entered ketosis and experienced your brain running on ketones, I would suggest you experiment for yourself. How do you do that? If the low-carb diet isn't enough, what is?
Low carb is generally considered to be under 100g carbs/day. Ketosis requires under 20g carbs/day.
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#43Noted that the underlying cause for the improvement comes from ketones. This should indicate that intermittent fasting would also show similar results. Low carb diet, keto diet, intermittent fasting, they're all just different ways to switch the fuel source from glucose to ketones.
Wouldn't just plain calorie restricting also result in ketosis at night? The way I read the headline is "Not overeating might make you healthier"
There's a lot of exciting research going on in this area but I believe that what you're hinting at is true. All of the things we know we should do, actually work. For whatever reason. Don't eat too much, go without sometimes, when you do eat, don't eat garbage, exercise on occasion, etc.
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#44Sugar, not fat is the killer. Incredible how for decades bad research and the likes of Ancel Keys and Phil Sokolof put the health of millions at risk.
Is this definite and scientific consensus? Nutrition research seems to change as often as JavaScript framework of the month. I saw one Ted talk that essentially said "everyone is different and no rules apply to everyone".
Nutrition “science”, like most health-related “sciences”, has approximately zero predictive power. A pretty reasonable strategy is to completely ignore whatever helpful advice the FDA or whomever is currently spouting (food pyramid!) and come up with some plausible first-principles model that matches available anecdata, like trying to match a plausible far-ancestral diet.
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#45Sugar, not fat is the killer. Incredible how for decades bad research and the likes of Ancel Keys and Phil Sokolof put the health of millions at risk.
Is this definite and scientific consensus? Nutrition research seems to change as often as JavaScript framework of the month. I saw one Ted talk that essentially said "everyone is different and no rules apply to everyone".
Demonizing fats in favor of sugar as a country has allowed one of the biggest and longest population studies of its kind, and it's pretty obvious from the health of the population that very high calorie, sugar rich diets are overall bad for you (notice the wide strokes we have to make here).
Everyone is different, and no rules apply uniformly to everyone, but general rules do apply to everyone. Fructose in a caloric surplus is more damaging than glucose, for instance, but different bodies are more or less effective at mitigating this. Most people have some inflammation response to gluten, but for the vast majority of people, it's minor. Most things are a sliding scale, on one end is no measurable result, on the other end is acute response.
NOTE: I'm not interested in arguing about what the research says here. I know the pro-gluten party will come out in force, and I've made an enemy with the bread baker's union. I'm not a researcher, I'm just a nutrition hobbyist. There are much smarter people doing much more comprehensive breakdowns and having much more meaningful debates than I can, so go listen to them. Read the research yourself with a skeptical eye. Take all dietary advice with a grain of salt, and check the opposite side of the research, nutrition and biology is WEIRD.
Also, we're still learning very basic things that have massive impacts. No one was talking about "gut health" unless you had a chronic disease roughly 10 years ago. Microbiome didn't have much place in the conversation about health and nutrition, no crossfit people knew about resistant starches, etc.
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#46I read some time ago about the Keto diet showing good results even in Alzheimer/dementia cases. Keto is not the same as low carb but it's close enough. Our molecular biology and internal chemical reactions are still areas of research in early phases. Just on a different topic, but in the same direction - last 10 years research discovered that immunity boosting has much better results in certain types of cancer than a…
Keto diet also has efficacy in managing epilepsy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6361831/
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this definite and scientific consensus? Nutrition research seems to change as often as JavaScript framework of the month. I saw one Ted talk that essentially said "everyone is different and no rules apply to everyone".
I highly recommend watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4sRsb0a30Y (Dr Robert Lustsig)
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#48Not sure if I believe all the hype about these wild benefits low carb/keto diets have but I will say I've felt so much better on it...I rarely feel tired anymore and have been weirdly healthy the last 2 years. My doctor was surprised with my blood tests and weight loss when she heard what I eat lol. I'd never go back to the amount of carbs I was eating.
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One could, but the health benefits of low carb diets are observable to both layman ( https://reddit.com/r/keto | https://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/ ) and in controlled studies ( https://www.google.com/search?q=pubmed+keto ), and the underlying macros are hard to gatekeep (I can get butter for my coffee anywhere). Who are the stakeholders in "low carb"? Influencers? Sure, there are always going to be folks selling…
>Who are the stakeholders in "low carb"? Arguably the meat industry, since most low carb people eat more meat. Yes, vegetarian is possible, but I don't know any vegetarian low carbers, while I know a lot of vegetarians and a lot of low carbers eating bacon for breakfast, lunch and dinner. The meat industry probably has a similarly big lobby as the sugar industry. I've dropped 8Kg in the last half year by going mostly…
is that because everyone has fallen for an extreme of a fad diet?
It's like everyone comes up with the right observation, and the wrong conclusion. "Low carbs are good, so ill eat fat protein. Meat is fat and protein" instead of "seeds and mushrooms." Or "meat is bad" so "ill eat lots of cereals" instead of "leaves and shoots."
Seeds, shoots, and leaves with some bottom feeding ocean animals is a perfectly doable diet.
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#50I read some time ago about the Keto diet showing good results even in Alzheimer/dementia cases. Keto is not the same as low carb but it's close enough. Our molecular biology and internal chemical reactions are still areas of research in early phases. Just on a different topic, but in the same direction - last 10 years research discovered that immunity boosting has much better results in certain types of cancer than a…
Effects of ketone bodies in Alzheimer's disease in relation to neural hypometabolism, β‐amyloid toxicity, and astrocyte function https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jnc.13107
"Diet supplementation with ketone bodies (acetoacetate and β‐hydroxybuturate) or medium‐length fatty acids generating ketone bodies has consistently been found to cause modest improvement of mental function in Alzheimer's patients. It was suggested that the therapeutic effect might be more pronounced if treatment was begun at a pre‐clinical stage of the disease instead of well after its manifestation."