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Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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Parent of 3 under 5 here. My personal view – This would only add more pressure to children and parents. Whatever happened to trusting your own instincts? Perhaps as children all grow and develop in such different ways and rates in the early years the best solution is not to try and 'fix' children via experts. Many parents might be crying out for this kind of service, but I certainly would not be one of them. Hope tha…

I wonder too, whether this is a service to help parents to stay sane or is it to help children overcome development hurdles?

Both of these ends are somewhat irrational, with no one right solution. Especially so when it's a health issue, or living environment problem. Health calls for pediatrician attention.

There're already well established meeting point web sites for parents, like whattoexpect.com and similar. Which pretty much sooth parent's worries and give a variety of community-advices. As often as "it's a stage to grow over". And, in personal experience, we parents grow over it together with the kids.

Personally, I see benefit in a variety of resources vs. one central, no matter how expert, point. But I could understand busy parents' desire to source this from a single "curated" and customized place.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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How do I sign up? Where are the prices? Your landing page sent me in loops when I clicked Get Started. I'm curious who you're targeting with this product. Wealthier families tend to have nannies, who will match expertise with implementation. Middle class send their kids to daycare or after-school programs, who also match expertise and implementation. Since this service is just expertise, who are the families that a)…

Thanks for your comment! It seems some companies have a spam filter on our site that blocks our sign-up and payment sections. Perhaps try on your phone (off a work network). There should be a sign-up flow right away (try this, which might get you all the way to coach match, if it stops, then it's the filter): https://www.trustle.com/challenges/general-support

We support a range of families on Trustle: While lots of parents feel incredibly supported by their wonderful nannies, not all do. And while nannies certainly have expertise in lots of areas, we find that they don't in all domains (this is why lots of people have nannies and talk to their child's teachers or another behavioral health provider). I have even done sessions with parents AND nannies together.

Several of our coaches are educators. And I can strongly say that they are some of the strongest advocates for Trustle and our service. Our educators tell us that in their experience, parents are constantly asking for support during drop-off or parent teacher conferences that relates to challenges at home (rather than school). While the teachers feel they can help somewhat, they don't feel that they have the time and space to fully give the parents the support they need (we hear often from teachers that parents want a 5-minute drop off consult for a challenge that really requires more time).

We are far more affordable than most behavioral health (we are $50 dollars a month for membership which includes call time and unlimited text) and our accessibility by phone and the ability to text your coach makes implementation possible. We support parents to give them back some energy by helping them with accessible and affordable advice to make some changes and tackles challenges.

One thing that has been really exciting is how happy our families are on the service.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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I have had basically the same idea, after feeling the problem myself as a parent of young kids. There is so much garbage on Google. Social science is always going to lack the consensus of a hard science, but we can do better than content farms that have assembled articles from freelancers who probably don't have children and are mustering up advice that's barely common sense. I hope for your success!

Yes! We absolutely agree! Did you pursue the idea at all or have any thoughts about doing so? I would love for you to check us out and let us know what you think!

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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I've worked in healthcare in the past (Drug Discovery) and have two parents in healthcare (Autism Clinical Psychologist and a Non-trauma ER Doctor).

This is really interesting and honestly, rings a bit true to me given what I've observed from their interactions. Here are some anecdotes I've observed from parenting information asymmetry:

1. A lot of young parents (think: less than 20 years old) show up at the ER with healthy crying babies and little or no information. When I was pre-med track and shadowed my father in the ER, I would see 3 or 4 of these parents in a 12 hour shift. Watching my father "bootstrap" each of these parents into what normal clinical baby behavior is prior to any health diagnosis was interesting: It was essentially a 30 minute 101 session about babies that are super important but also non-obvious. It was also obvious that the lessons really sunk in when it came from a third party clinician. It also wasn't uncommon to see the baby parents and the parent's parents in the ER, all taking notes.

2. For my mother (the clinical psychologist), I've observed that even highly-educated, well-resourced parents still struggle with everything necessary to learn when having an autistic child. These sessions would often range from immediate clinical needs, to year-by-year details of specific education needs for the rest of childhood, to the region and state-specific financial resources and saving accounts available for lifetime planning. My mother works with schools and publishes papers on this stuff, but the parents always came back because ability to have a very direct Q-and-A session about specific issues was incredibly valuable.

Anyway, my father is retiring soon but I'll tell my mother about your service. She can't travel as much but if it works via video chat, she may be up for taking sessions on it.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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As a privacy-conscious parent with five children, all of whom are gifted in numerous ways, we do often speak with a psychologist about how to keep them challenged, how to steer negative behavior into good behavior, etc. I couldn’t imagine not having such a guide at our side in addition to all the books and content we consume as inspiration in our quest to nurture our family. However, I would also caution you - and pardon me for being presumptive about what this service will do, but please don’t run ML on my kids. I really don’t need their lives contributing to mass collection of psycho-data and analysis.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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It seems that the underlying assumption here is that people who are highly educated and work in "clinical child development or similar" are superior at giving advice. Is this actually true? I'm also skeptical of the idea that support is best given as advice as opposed to something tangible. If you indeed have a way to give superior advice to parents and result in presumably superior outcomes for parents and their chi…

I too have my reservations (though I want to try this out), but:

> if blogs and content out of the web cannot be trusted, why should your experts' advice be? There are very smart people out there who have written books and blog posts.

The problem is, there are orders of magnitude more articles written by content marketers - between papers, lifestyle magazines, presell pages, social media groups, infographics, YouTube videos, etc. there's tons of it, and it has much better SEO than legit sources. I've worked next to some content marketers and seen how this is created - mostly, by mindless copy-pasting from other content marketers, and occasionally rephrasing things to avoid accusations of plagiarism.

The hard part of finding sources on-line is filtering out low-quality sources and misinformation. If Trustle can help with that - if they can develop and maintain a trustworthy reputation, this will be a service worth paying for.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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As a privacy-conscious parent with five children, all of whom are gifted in numerous ways, we do often speak with a psychologist about how to keep them challenged, how to steer negative behavior into good behavior, etc. I couldn’t imagine not having such a guide at our side in addition to all the books and content we consume as inspiration in our quest to nurture our family. However, I would also caution you - and pa…

Upvote for any parent with 5+ Kiddos!

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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As a privacy-conscious parent with five children, all of whom are gifted in numerous ways, we do often speak with a psychologist about how to keep them challenged, how to steer negative behavior into good behavior, etc. I couldn’t imagine not having such a guide at our side in addition to all the books and content we consume as inspiration in our quest to nurture our family. However, I would also caution you - and pa…

Tom here (Elizabeth's cofounder.) Completely valid worries in today's world! But rest assured we have no intention of doing that.

We want to use technology to make this service accessible and affordable to as many people as possible - for example being able to video chat rather than go to a physical location. But that's as far as we want to go.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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> And our support systems have changed dramatically; we’ve often moved away from the close-knit communities and extended families that used to be the norm. And when we go online we see an overwhelming amount of advice that’s often contradictory and just doesn’t feel applicable to our specific situation. Definitely that is a thing. My kid is 3 - this is something we've wrestled with ourselves. A niche business idea, b…

Yes - the contradicting advice is very real and overwhelming for parents. It is myth that there is "one way" to tackle most parenting things - there are too many factors at play (child temperament, parenting values, etc). Combining evidence-based advised with individualized support can actually help - but a blog/passive content can't do that. Thanks for checking us out! Would love to hear what you think!

There's evidence based works out there, but it's crazy hard to find them. Too much bloviation. As a resource bundle for members, you could offer book packages of known good texts. Possibly also a blacklist of "ideas/works demonstrated to generally be harmful".

I dig the elephant motif, I just like elephants, and it's cute.

Let's see. Working through signup flow.

Picking the Coach - I don't know these people. I'd suggest that the initial assignment be done on Trustle-side. It seems that the essential differentiator of the three options I am initially presented with are the times they are available. Which is _unfair_ to these highly educated professionals IMO. I would like to understand the key differences between one coach and another beyond the statements - despite reading a certain amount of child development works, I don't per se understand clearly the specialist jargon.

The other thing that gives me pause is the cost - I don't have a way to do an evaluation besides dropping $70. Which isn't that much in the grand scheme of things, but it's more than, e.g., a typical dinner for two. I can imagine that there are a wide variety of effective general philosophies and, like talk therapists, some therapists are more effective for some people than others. This feeds back to the prior paragraph - it's easier to be confident in payment if you understand the approach of the coach, that it will work for your family.

Re: Launch HN: Trustle (YC W20) – On-demand child development experts for parents

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It seems that the underlying assumption here is that people who are highly educated and work in "clinical child development or similar" are superior at giving advice. Is this actually true? I'm also skeptical of the idea that support is best given as advice as opposed to something tangible. If you indeed have a way to give superior advice to parents and result in presumably superior outcomes for parents and their chi…

I too have my reservations (though I want to try this out), but: > if blogs and content out of the web cannot be trusted, why should your experts' advice be? There are very smart people out there who have written books and blog posts. The problem is, there are orders of magnitude more articles written by content marketers - between papers, lifestyle magazines, presell pages, social media groups, infographics, YouTube…

I think there are two challenges with content on the web. First, there's all the marketing stuff you mentioned that could be low quality.

Second, even for the high-quality stuff (and there is some really great stuff out there), it isn't necessarily right for a specific family. There's no way for a blog to understand a families specific goals or philosophy, or to take into account the unique situation of the child or parents. Families are complex, and we hope our coaches can help a family sort through that complexity and get the info that's right for them.

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