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BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.

>Everybody is going crazy about going digital...

This Logo design change is so out of left field too, since the craze about "going digital" feels almost a decade old at this point.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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post #23

My favorite observation on the changing of corporate logos: https://flowingdata.com/2009/08/13/pepsi-and-coca-cola-logo-...

Related to Pepsi, have you seen their 2008 rebranding document?

https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

I'm still not convinced it isn't satire as it has some truly breathtaking BS. Some quick highlights:

The new logo incorporates 5000 years of design (including Vastu Sastra, Golden Ratio, Feng Shui, Vitruvian Principle, and the Mobius Strip)

The Pepsi Ratio is created by two simple circles, that are in a set ratio to each other: The Golden Ratio. The Pepsi Ratio is aesthetic geometry.

Incorporates "The Earth’s Geodynamo" and "Magnetic Dynamics" to create the "The Pepsi Globe Dynamics"

Edit: A few articles about it still exist: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pepsis-nonsensical-logo-redesig... https://gawker.com/5150582/breathtaking-document-reveals-pep... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/459...

Glad it hasn't completely disappeared yet.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

#43

BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.

> BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship

Do they? You're commenting on a thread about their logo change which suggests they don't.

BMW has for very long time been primarily a brand. Take away the brand and they simply wouldn't compete in the market. They build real machines, but not very good ones. Look at Honda if you want an example of a company that is about the machines.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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The BMW logo always looked like a wheel to me: a blue-white rim, and a black tire.

Although I would understand if they depict a low-profile tire in their logo, instead removing the tire altogether appears bit off to me.

Hence, it seems like they really found a logo for prototype cars that can't run.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

#46

BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.

It's an idiotic story. People have been stealing the emblems of expensive cars like BMW for years. Now they make one that integrates with the car body itself, and this guy has a fit? The stupidity is astounding.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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Aside from being ugly and making no sense at all, the part that gets me about these things is that it wasn't broken.

Seriously, did someone at the top of the organization wake up one day thinking "We are not selling more cars because of our logo"?

Of all the things they could have decided to work on that might actually deliver real value to customers, the logo was deemed to be important?

After owning a number of BMW's we decided we had enough, turned in our last leased car and walked away. They are horribly expensive to maintain and, even if you are willing to do some of it yourself, the parts are just ridiculously expensive.

One of the key decision drivers is that we have a Toyota vehicle with nearly 250K miles on it (400K km). We bought it new and maintained it at about 1/3 of the prescribed maintenance schedule. In other words, oil changes every 10K miles rather than the recommended 3K. The car runs very well, fuel efficiency is still good and it cost us almost nothing to maintain after the warranty ran out. With one of our prior BMW's we had to spend $3K to fix it (I forget what it was) a few months after the warranty expired. I know this is a single data point, and yet, when I talk to long-term (out of warranty) BMW owners it is amazing how often these kinds of sentiments surface.

So, yeah, I don't understand the focus on a logo. A logo isn't going to get my family back into a BMW dealership, ever. You have to question someone's priorities and understanding of their customers when they feel messing with the logo is of actual importance to them at all.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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post #9

From a utilitarian maintenance perspective, I think the open design of it makes it such a pain to keep looking good on a car. All those interior edges inside the logo catch debris and are difficult to clean to the edge of the design elements. I prefer car logos with closed smooth badges.

This is a great point! Bits of fluff from car wash cloths would get caught under all those edges.

Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design

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post #3

The new logo looks more top heavy somehow. When there was a dark ring the logo looked balanced, now it looks like the center of gravity is off and the logo wouldn’t stay upright if placed on a table.

My take on this is the airplane propellers in the center--that's what the white and blue signifies, for those who don't know--draw your eye toward the center-point of the logo, but the "BMW" draws your eye back up, causing a sort of "oscillation." If they insist on this design then eliminating the outer ring would likely cause a more balanced reaction.
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