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Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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post #91

I wonder why social media in general enforces everything to be ephemeral. Sure, Stories are specific about it, but even regular old posts in Facebook, Instagram, Twitter are very hard to track and consume. They are there, you can search if you are looking for something specific, a Facebook resurface some old memory for you when an algorithm decides it should. But they are not made to be a memory repository for users.…

likewise, I'm building a social-network-y site for retail investors (https://www.holfolio.com) to track and share what they and others are investing in.

One of the main points is you can see the history of what someone has invested in and get a picture of their whole portfolio. Some people currently post their trades on traditional social media but its really hard to keep track of, these fleets are only going to make it worse (helping me in the process?)

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#143
post #83

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I honestly couldn't disagree more with this assessment of "stories". Stories are great for the platform. They drive user engagement, and, hence, advertising. As far as I can tell, they're terrible for the users. You have to constantly be active to not miss something, you can't just check back in after a few days. For some reason, comments are private only, which is almost never what I want -- as a poster, as a commen…

I find that Instagram stories, being ephemeral (they disappear after 24 hours) have done a lot do reduce the impact of "instagram perfection". You get to see a bit more of people's real, everyday lives. You're right that you miss things if you don't check it at the right time, but that's ok, you don't have to see everything.

Top influencers definitely curate what they post on their stories, to maintain an image of a perfect everyday life.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#144
post #83
post #15

This will be popular, and might even replace regular usage, as Stories have in Instagram. It'll enable people to be more authentic, transparent, and casual. It will help counter Twitter getting increasingly LinkedIn-like. I made an app called Blink that did exactly this a few years ago: https://www.producthunt.com/upcoming/blink . Build it and they will come, not :)

I honestly couldn't disagree more with this assessment of "stories". Stories are great for the platform. They drive user engagement, and, hence, advertising. As far as I can tell, they're terrible for the users. You have to constantly be active to not miss something, you can't just check back in after a few days. For some reason, comments are private only, which is almost never what I want -- as a poster, as a commen…

> I honestly couldn't disagree more with this assessment of "stories".

I generally agree. Anytime I see a platform move towards "stories", my engagement with that platform drops like rock.

That said, I belong to the 40+ segment and I suspect there might be a generational gap going on here. Basically just like with Snapchat is being intentionally terrible to use, to drive away us "elderly" from a platform designed primarily for the youth.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#145
post #119

It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app.

> It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app.

While it's absolutely terrible, it kinda makes sense in the metric-driven world we live in right now.

What had me completely surprised was when this was added to fucking YouTube. I do not want stories in my Youtube feed. God damnit!

It's a video-streaming site, not a social media platform. And please don't try to make it into a social media platform either!

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#146
post #119

It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app.

> It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app. While it's absolutely terrible, it kinda makes sense in the metric-driven world we live in right now. What had me completely surprised was when this was added to fucking YouTube . I do not want stories in my Youtube feed. God damnit! It's a video-streaming site, not a social media platform. And please don't try to make i…

It was more of a social media platform. Remember video replies?

Then it turned into a video-streaming website.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#147
post #106

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I think this is what's driving tiktoks success (or at least why I am obsessed). Tiktoks bring an entirely new level of getting to know someone that I havn't ever met before that i've never experienced before on an app.

Wasn't this Snapchat back in the day? And Twitter before that?

Snap for sure! But that's more just for close friends, which I already know pretty well. Twitter isn't even close to TikTok in providing emotional connections to people you don't even know, imo.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#148
post #38

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An edit button should only be allowed if it removed all Likes/Retweets/Comments a tweet had. And at that point, what's the point

I wouldn't mind if editing was only available for maybe 5 minutes or something. I pretty much only delete/rewrite to fix typos.

Jack has discussed this. It won't happen. Even in 5 minutes a tweet can reach MANY people, and then it would be able to be changed entirely?

Twitter won't get an edit feature, it just doesn't work for the platform. The only way I see it happening is as an 'undo' send feature like Gmail has. You can see the tweet for 15 seconds before it actually goes out. This has also been discussed as an issue since Twitter is supposed to be real-time, but maybe certain people wouldn't care and enable the feature

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#149
post #119

It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app.

> It seems like all the major social media sites are slowly turning into the same homogenous app. While it's absolutely terrible, it kinda makes sense in the metric-driven world we live in right now. What had me completely surprised was when this was added to fucking YouTube . I do not want stories in my Youtube feed. God damnit! It's a video-streaming site, not a social media platform. And please don't try to make i…

exactly! I saw it on youtube as well and was pretty surprised...

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#150
post #28

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It would be a valuable experience for you and the health of Twitter, though.

Could you elaborate?

Your retweet behavior would change, Twitter would move past "no edit button" and iterate using the new data points
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