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Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by lioeters »

tilolebo wrote: post #52
scoutt wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is intended to be stared at it 8 hours-straight. I thinks it's more like a clock: you look at it several times a day, and not only when you hear an alarm.

Clocks are an anti pattern... Why would you want to have the time displayed permanently? It's such a distraction for developers. Just set automated alerts for lunch and end of day and that's it.

Calendars, clocks, real-time notifications, and video chats are all anti-patterns, distracting developers from their zone of genius. Just send a concise email at the beginning/end of the day/week. (One can only dream..)

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by InvisibleCities »

reaperducer wrote: post #78
tyrust wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That's not a problem with dashboards. That's a problem with training and staffing people. Training and staffing people to look at dashboards? I've never heard of this and it sounds awful.

"Hey, Mike. On your way to the Keurig, remember to glance at the status panel on the wall and let us know if something doesn't look right, OK?" Brutal.

Why should Mike have to remember this? Why should all of your infrastructure depend on Mike not getting a text from his wife while walking to the fridge for a La Croix?

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by sub7 »

Problem with this is that any half competent team can put something like this up in an hour or so. Wallboards are for high level stats - like 1 or 2 numbers the team should focus on.

Maybe the tiles are super smart and can do uptime testing, log monitoring etc in which case this should be positioned as an uptime tester/log monitor etc

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by chrisandchris »

sparrish wrote: post #64
sirtoffski wrote: post #62

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I’ll chime in here to say we use both at work. In a NOC at a medium-sized ISP, we are getting hammered with alerts 24/7. Some are not urgent, while others need to be actioned much faster - I mean 100G transit link down is no good. We’d receive an automatic email about a large circuit going down, we’d also receive a ticket about it; sometimes people dont look at the tickets closely enough, other times people get distr…

If you're getting alerts for non-actionable events, you need to do a better job of tuning your monitors and alerts. Alerts shouldn't be sent about anything that doesn't require an action.

There‘s a wide variety of „requires action“. It might be that it‘s fine to act within 1 hour or within 10min. Both deserves an alert, but only one requires you to immediately stop your coffe break...

In an ideal world, I agree. But sometimes an automated system can not perfeclty decide about the severity of an alert which leads to some alerts being ignofed, which is fine.

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by kqr »

ketzo wrote: post #100
sciurus wrote: post #92

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How often do you have data that is 1) important enough to display on a dashboard 2) not important enough to record so you can track it over time ?

Build status immediately jumps to mind.

Getting any sort of interesting insight from that surely requires the context of historical build statuses?

How long will it be down for? When will it be down next? How likely is it that it goes down next week? Is it just me or has it been down a lot this month?

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by gumby »

reaperducer wrote: post #48

Panic used to have an iOS app that did this. It was called Status Board, and was magnificent. You could put it on an old iPad on an easel on your desk and watch everything from RSS feeds to ping statistics. In an office setting, you'd hook the 'Pad up to a cheap flat screen TV so everyone could see. Sadly, Panic discontinued it when it decided to go after the video game market.

I had this app and it was useful; it's a shame that they discontinued it though I was glad they gave a clear explanation as to why.

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Post by Nextgrid »

reaperducer wrote: post #48

Panic used to have an iOS app that did this. It was called Status Board, and was magnificent. You could put it on an old iPad on an easel on your desk and watch everything from RSS feeds to ping statistics. In an office setting, you'd hook the 'Pad up to a cheap flat screen TV so everyone could see. Sadly, Panic discontinued it when it decided to go after the video game market.

There's another company making such an app: https://cynapse.com/numerics/

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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Post by bigiain »

reaperducer wrote: post #83
SergeAx wrote: post #77

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If it is a sarcasm, then please mind that original comment author got really humped by this app's vendor when it stopped working. Maybe Stallman got something right after all?

It didn't stop working. It just doesn't get updated anymore.

In Stallman thinking though, he doesn't have the freedom to fix or update it himself.

(I don't think Stallman's ideas are necessarily right for everybody, but I'm glad he's doing his thing right out in his end of the bell curve to counteract the opposite end of the software philosophy craziness...)

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