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Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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Editing tweets is against the core concept of Twitter.

why not have a edit history but still show the most recent tweet at the time?

It doesn't mesh well with the retweet functionality if a user can retroactively change the content.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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You cannot prevent that and it cannot be policed.

I concur about preventing, though T&C's could enable policing. Also a nice (c) notice would enable self-policing upon such infractions to some extent. But certainly it will not be a fluid process currently. Let's see if they update T&C's to accommodate that aspect.

Copyrighting tweets? I love the idea as a demonstration of the absurd extent of copyright, but I'd expect virtually no tweets to be considered copyrightable.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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I wonder how much research went into the name "Fleets". To a lot of people, the first thing that comes to mind after "Fleets" is "enema" as in "Fleets enema". I am not sure Twitter wants to evoke that image. Then again, maybe this is Twitter acknowledging the toxic nature of Tweets and why they should be flushed out of the system quickly.

I've studied in the US, binged every Sorkin series, scored a 700 on the verbal SAT, and work almost exclusively in an English-language environment. And yet I've never heard of Fleets enema". It's strange what cultural blind spots remain.

That being said, "Fleets" strikes my non-native ears as an above-average naming choice with its double entendre of "Group of something" as well as "fleeting".

(It's also an ongoing pet peeve of mine how risk-averse people are in regards to naming. "CockroachDB" or "Plan B" (the morning-after pill) strike me as hilarious and instant classics of the genre, both evoking a rich set of emotions that fit pretty well with their respective products. I guess it's Keynesian-Beauty-Contest sort of fallacy, where everyone believes all the others are into Playboy models, even though they themselves prefer the Girl-next-door type)

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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I concur about preventing, though T&C's could enable policing. Also a nice (c) notice would enable self-policing upon such infractions to some extent. But certainly it will not be a fluid process currently. Let's see if they update T&C's to accommodate that aspect.

Copyrighting tweets? I love the idea as a demonstration of the absurd extent of copyright, but I'd expect virtually no tweets to be considered copyrightable.

IANAL, but I feel like an original tweet to @bbcmicrobot should be copyrightable. Maybe adding a little © at the end to signal original authorship?

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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I wonder how much research went into the name "Fleets". To a lot of people, the first thing that comes to mind after "Fleets" is "enema" as in "Fleets enema". I am not sure Twitter wants to evoke that image. Then again, maybe this is Twitter acknowledging the toxic nature of Tweets and why they should be flushed out of the system quickly.

I just can't imagine it translating well to non-English speakers.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#58

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Don't do this here, please. It's not even relevant to the comment you're replying to.

It is relevant, it's a totally appropriate response to the GP comment. Snapchat hasn't been primarily a nude-sharing app for a long time, and the fact that some people seem to go out of their way to remain ignorant about that and keep treating it as such is the exact kind of intentional smug ignorance that the "ok boomer" meme is mocking.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

#59
I think the modern stock market has a structural problem with unrealistic pursuit of growth, which essentially forces public organizations into scope creep, intimately leading to the decline of product quality across the board as successful products make unnecessary changes.

Re: Twitter starts testing 'Fleets,' its version of Stories

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They've done quite a bit on the product front, although it's fair to question the utility to average users: - Increased tweet length to 280 chars - Tweet threads - GIF integration - Multiple UI revisions of desktop and mobile apps There's also been a fair amount of work on ads and security, although these changes will be less apparent to most users.

But is any of this really stuff that should take 1000 engineers to build? Tweet length? GIFs? I don't question that those engineers are working hard. I'm sure they're not sitting around twiddling their thumbs. And I don't question that there aren't some genuinely hard, complicated problems to solve at Twitter, particularly around scaling and security. But from a structural perspective, I do still kind of wonder if co…

Having made the same observation as you, I always preferred the formulation in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringelmann_effect. Although the Wikipedia article lists "loss of motivation" as a cause, it originally focussed more on coordination problems growing with group size–sort of a reverse Metcalf'.

In that sense it avoids the lazy cynicism of writing off whole groups of people as stupid or unmotivated (i. e. all of Dilbert). Instead, it's a starting point to consider how much we can still improve what's arguably humanity's claim to fame, the ability to cooperate.

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