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The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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> According to the complaints of a survivor, the medical graduate student (24 years old) from Wuhan University, she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care. She said that if she fell asleep, she might die because she had lost her natural breath

Sounds like something from a horror movie!

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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I will argue this is wrong: Only N95 or better masks have studies proving their effectiveness. I don't think we have good data on weaker masks or even "home made" masks- It's totally possible they are also effective, with proper technique. Please somebody show me data that proves otherwise, I'm totally open to it. (Note: I'm not saying I want you to post opinions from people in authority, I'm saying I want to see dat…

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3373043/?fbclid... > Quality commercial masks are not always accessible, but anecdotal evidence has showed that handmade masks of cotton gauze were protective in military barracks and in healthcare workers during the Manchurian epidemic. > The prototype mask achieved a fit factor of 67 for 1 author with a Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) panel face size of 4, a common…

Great link!

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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> According to the complaints of a survivor, the medical graduate student (24 years old) from Wuhan University, she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care. She said that if she fell asleep, she might die because she had lost her natural breath Sounds like something from a horror movie!

Couldn't agree more. I can't seem to forget this sentence...

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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From the paper: > If the neuroinvasion of SARS-CoV-2 does take a part in the development of respiratory failure in COVID-19 patients, the precaution with masks will absolutely be the most effective measure to protect against the possible entry of the virus into the CNS. It may also be expected that the symptoms of the patients infected via facal-oral or conjunctival route will be lighter than those infected intranasa…

Why not use a cheap noseclip for swimming? Perfectly leak-free. The paper suggests intranasal transmission is what you most want to avoid.

> It may also be expected that the symptoms of the patients infected via facal-oral or conjunctival route will be lighter than those infected intranasally.

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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>need to be conserved for public health users. I think we should all ask ourselves why we take it for granted that we should simply have to ration masks. Why aren't there enough masks available for everyone for inevitable outbreaks like this? Why don't we have the industrial capacity to manufacture masks in the US, leaving us reliant on foreign imports? We spend ~$80 billion dollars a month on our endless war, milita…

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It comes down a question of priorities - the money is being spent right now. Is the average American better off if we spend $25 billion dollars next week arming Turkish Jihadists and sending missiles to Ukraine, or spending that money to build up our own country and respond properly to this outbreak before it gets out of control?

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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Very possibly because the olfactory bulb is basically a bit of the brain exposed to the atmosphere. See the illustration on the wikipedia page [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olfactory_bulb

The retina is basically an extension of the brain as well, no? If not, what is the key difference? Do you have a link talking about the atmosphere?

But the retina is not exposed to the outside world. It's got the rest of the eye between it and the air.

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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Yes, only a N95 or better mask would protect you from incoming, as opposed to outgoing, viruses, and these masks are both impractical for everyday wear and need to be conserved for public health users.

Meanwhile in South Korea everyone has masks. In WWII we built one bomber an hour at one plant, and now we can't figure out how to build millions or billions of masks.

Be fair. Nobody was building one bomber an hour two months after the very first sign of trouble.

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

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post #10

From the paper: > If the neuroinvasion of SARS-CoV-2 does take a part in the development of respiratory failure in COVID-19 patients, the precaution with masks will absolutely be the most effective measure to protect against the possible entry of the virus into the CNS. It may also be expected that the symptoms of the patients infected via facal-oral or conjunctival route will be lighter than those infected intranasa…

> It may also be expected that the symptoms of the patients infected via facal-oral or conjunctival route will be lighter than those infected intranasally. Where can I buy noseplugs?

Foam earplugs work but look a little funny.

Re: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2

#190
post #61

Would this explain the apparent sudden collapse of people on the streets in China and Iran? [1] [1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/people-collapsing-coronavi...

Folks, if you see someone collapse on the street and they're wearing a mask. TAKE THE MASK OFF OF THEM. They're not getting enough oxygen. It is taxing to breath through an N95 mask. Source: I passed out when I put on a surgical mask while my wife was getting an epidural. Not from seeing the needle because I didn't even see the needle, and I don't get squeamish anyway. I have low blood oxygen and it was too hard to breath through the mask.
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