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Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by jeroenvisser101 »

> Last modified: November 27, 2018 | Previous Versions

> As of November 28, 2017, Google Kubernetes Engine no longer charges a flat fee per hour per cluster for cluster management, regardless of cluster size, as provided at https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/pricing. Accordingly, Google no longer offers a financially-backed service level agreement for the Google Kubernetes Engine service. The service availability of nodes in a Google Kubernetes Engine-managed cluster is covered by the Google Compute Engine SLA at https://cloud.google.com/compute/sla.

> Uptime for Google Kubernetes Engine is nevertheless highly important to Google, and Google has an internal goal to keep the monthly uptime percentage at 99.5% for the Kubernetes API server for zonal clusters and 99.95% for regional clusters regardless of the applicability of a financially-backed service level agreement.

https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/sla

Interesting that they're now walking back from this...

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by sladey »

sethvargo wrote: post #10
jerendy92 wrote: post #8

Time to dump GCP then. It's not even that the fee is that large, but rather that this is once again Google failing on a long term commitment and shafting those on their platform once again. This was one of the benefits that was pushed by their sales team when they called us up to market GCP over AWS and their EKS offering. Doesn't matter that they are price matching, Google's inability to actually commit to long term…

Thank you for the feedback. > Google's inability to actually commit to long term support... This is _exactly_ what Google is doing in this case. We are providing an SLA - a legal agreement of availability and support. These changes introduce a guaranteed availability of the management control plane.

Shouldn't that be opt-in? The management control plane is not something we consider critical to operations. I'd happily accept if it was unavailable for 1 and a half minutes a day versus these additional costs.

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by sethvargo »

stevencorona wrote: post #5

Wow, this is a huge bummer. A lot of our infrastructure assumptions have been based around having several small GKE clusters.

I'm sorry to hear that. You can use namespaces and and separate node pools to isolate workloads. We'd love to hear more about your use case for having many small GKE clusters.

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by tpetry »

jerendy92 wrote: post #8

Time to dump GCP then. It's not even that the fee is that large, but rather that this is once again Google failing on a long term commitment and shafting those on their platform once again. This was one of the benefits that was pushed by their sales team when they called us up to market GCP over AWS and their EKS offering. Doesn't matter that they are price matching, Google's inability to actually commit to long term…

What? A 73$ price difference to AWS was their main selling point?

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by MightySCollins »

whatakaruvad wrote: post #16

This is seriously such a bummer. This was the main reason for us moving out of AWS

We also jumped over for this reason and had to deal with a large number of gotchas from GCP. I kinda wish I never spent the long nights on this...

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by sethvargo »

sladey wrote: post #22
sethvargo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the feedback. > Google's inability to actually commit to long term support... This is _exactly_ what Google is doing in this case. We are providing an SLA - a legal agreement of availability and support. These changes introduce a guaranteed availability of the management control plane.

Shouldn't that be opt-in? The management control plane is not something we consider critical to operations. I'd happily accept if it was unavailable for 1 and a half minutes a day versus these additional costs.

That's great feedback. I'll relay that to the product team. IANAL, but I think it would be legally challenging.

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by lain »

mchiang wrote: post #2

I haven’t done cost calculations yet, but this might actually make me want to explore to EKS pricing. I do love the experience of GKE.

It's the same as the new pricing that EKS has at $0.10/hour. Guess that rules out my hopes of EKS not charging for the management plane any time in the near future. :'(

Re: Google Kubernetes Engine is introducing a cluster management fee on June 6

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Post by tssva »

d_watt wrote: post #14

$72/month per cluster, regardless of the size. It's interesting they're not charging per managed node (outside of the regular machine cost), makes it steep if you want to have a small cluster up.

Each billing account gets 1 free zonal cluster so the cost for keeping a small cluster up won't change.
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