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$50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by samstave »

tomatotomato37 wrote: post #21
ErikAugust wrote: post #9

Wait until they hear about the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of all sorts of stuff sitting idle that has been purchased by the DoD and USG paid for by tax money.

Reminds me how the US continually produces tanks despite the armies recommendations, to the point where we have enough tanks to essentially fight WW3 with purely tanks and still have some left over, just so some congressmen can keep jobs in their constituency. At least that was the situation in the 2000s, no idea if that wackiness is still continuing

Where are all these tabks located?

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by aguyfromnb »

ErikAugust wrote: post #9

Wait until they hear about the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of all sorts of stuff sitting idle that has been purchased by the DoD and USG paid for by tax money.

>Wait until they hear about the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of all sorts of stuff sitting idle that has been purchased by the DoD and USG paid for by tax money.

What is your point? This is "whataboutism".

Do you not see a difference between government entities and private companies (owned in majority by one billionaire)?

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by Robotbeat »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #67
walrus01 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the problems with entirely ceasing production of a category of incredibly complex military system is that the engineering knowledge to build it retires, goes elsewhere or becomes unavailable. The UK faced a number of problems with their domestic construction of the Astute class nuclear attack submarines, as they had not built a nuclear sub in more than 15 years. The institutional knowledge of how to build such…

Why not instead build them slowly enough so that the last submarine of class n-1 would be finished just before/after beginning of the build of the first submarine of class n?

Because that makes the costs much higher. At some point, the unit costs are dominated by fixed costs, so producing 1 a year costs 10 times as much per unit as producing, say, 15 per year.

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by danans »

lobotryas wrote: post #44
searine wrote: post #5

This seems like kind of a 'gotcha' article. "One out of every $6 spent on machinery for the Tesla factory is now unused." I'd imagine most healthy large companies operate this way. Utilizing the majority of their equipment and having some reserve capacity in parts and equipment stored.

Absolutely is a hot piece. Look how they went out of their way to mention that Musk is a billionaire (is that even true?). Hating on billionaires - so hot right now.

> Hating on billionaires - so hot right now

People don't hate the billionaires, they disapprove of a system structured to allow some people to acquire vast wealth on the order of billions while large numbers struggle with the basics like healthcare, childcare, education, and housing, while that system pays lip service to their struggles while doing little to change it.

Western European countries, Japan, South Korea, for example, have billionaires, and many 100-millionaires, but do a much better job providing universal benefits.

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by z9e »

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #12

> State government documents put the final price tag at $958,600,000 for the property, building construction and equipment. The cost for the equipment alone is close to $300 million. What a staggering number. How does our government get away with wasting so much money without any accountability?

Because with every election we increase its power and size. Turns out when you pay the bill with someone else’s money, you won’t be so concerned with how much it costs.

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by formercoder »

zelon88 wrote: post #76
pbreit wrote: post #37

As usual, Tesla's involvement in the original deal is reported incorrectly. Tesla had no involvement in the original deal. Nor did Solar City. In fact, Silevo did the deal, was then acquired by Solar City which was then acquired by Tesla.

Contracts between entities don't just disappear when the entities involved change hands. Pending business arrangements should have all been factored in to the equity of the purchase.

They can have change of control provisions.

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Post by whatshisface »

rurp wrote: post #80
SEJeff wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d say this is false, even as I myself am a US Army veteran who spent a year in Iraq 2003-2004. Tanks are still useful, but aren’t as useful against non-conventional forces. The pentagon has spent the past 4-5 years retooling for what they call “near peer” threats which is to say China in the Pacific and Russia in Europe. Tanks, and really good ones in specific, would be required to push back a Russian incursion int…

I just can't imagine a plausible scenario where a war between nuclear powers comes down to which side has more tanks. Does the US military actually think that it could invade China or Russia with a conventional army without the other side quickly threatening to use nukes? At that point it would become a two true outcome scenario: either the conventional fighting stops or we are all in big trouble.

Russia would threaten nukes to protect its homeland, but would it start a nuclear war over, say, Poland?

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by zionic »

pbreit wrote: post #37

As usual, Tesla's involvement in the original deal is reported incorrectly. Tesla had no involvement in the original deal. Nor did Solar City. In fact, Silevo did the deal, was then acquired by Solar City which was then acquired by Tesla.

Yep, seems like another short-and-distort campaign. I can't wait to have this brought up in anti-Tesla reddit arguments for the next 12 months.

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by CrazyStat »

natch wrote: post #73
new_realist wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that Tesla will longer make solar cells in that factory (Panasonic is ending the relationship and withdrawing by September) I’d guess that it will all be unused shortly; this is just what has obviously been relocated so far.

> Considering that Tesla will longer make solar cells in that factory Solar cells? Panasonic was making battery cells for Tesla. Are you mixing up different uses of the word “cell”?

Panasonic was making battery cells for Tesla in Nevada and solar cells for Tesla in New York. This article is about the latter.

Re: $50M worth of Tesla equipment sits unused in a Wheatfield warehouse

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Post by [deleted] »

natch wrote: post #73
new_realist wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that Tesla will longer make solar cells in that factory (Panasonic is ending the relationship and withdrawing by September) I’d guess that it will all be unused shortly; this is just what has obviously been relocated so far.

> Considering that Tesla will longer make solar cells in that factory Solar cells? Panasonic was making battery cells for Tesla. Are you mixing up different uses of the word “cell”?

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