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Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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It is interesting to me that people are so laser focused on test kits and vaccines. In my less than humble opinion, people should focus on improving their immune system. You can reduce the load on your immune system by not eating sugar and reducing carbs as much as you can. We also know from history and science that every plague that killed people from respiratory virus infections was due to a lack of vitamin D3 and over production of the ACE2 enzyme. The virus quickly binds to ACE2 and their adaptive immune systems did not have the time to start producing enough anti-bodies. I do not understand why the CDC is not suggesting that folks increase their D3 intake, cut out sugar and most importantly, take a break from smoking which is know to increase ACE2. There are alternate methods of nicotine sources available.

I mention this because a vaccine is only useful for known viral code. nCoV will have a family of hundreds of variants in no time. Boosting ones built in adaptive defenses will protect against all of the mutations.

Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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It is interesting to me that people are so laser focused on test kits and vaccines. In my less than humble opinion, people should focus on improving their immune system. You can reduce the load on your immune system by not eating sugar and reducing carbs as much as you can. We also know from history and science that every plague that killed people from respiratory virus infections was due to a lack of vitamin D3 and…

as someone on low-carb I find this interresting, but any studies behind it?

Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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It is interesting to me that people are so laser focused on test kits and vaccines. In my less than humble opinion, people should focus on improving their immune system. You can reduce the load on your immune system by not eating sugar and reducing carbs as much as you can. We also know from history and science that every plague that killed people from respiratory virus infections was due to a lack of vitamin D3 and…

Cite every sentence above, please, or cut out the idle speculation; it's foolish at best.

NPIs -- handwashing, avoiding close contact with people sneezing like mad, not touching your face -- are the only things that actually work right now that everyone can and should be doing.

Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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Ctrl+F "remdesivir". No results in the article. Epic fail. There's really no cure for the Trump Derangement Syndrome, though.

I have met Derek Lowe personally. He's got 35 years in the game as a bench chemist working on theraputics and knows this world inside and out.

What are your similarly long-term credentials that give you such definitive knowledge?

Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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Ctrl+F "remdesivir". No results in the article. Epic fail. There's really no cure for the Trump Derangement Syndrome, though.

I have met Derek Lowe personally. He's got 35 years in the game as a bench chemist working on theraputics and knows this world inside and out. What are your similarly long-term credentials that give you such definitive knowledge?

^ and he's still wrong. There are several drugs and vaccines undergoing trials as we speak, and being given to patients in China. At least two drugs, Remdesivir and Chloroquine have shown efficacy already. Chloroquine is a generic that costs a dollar a bucket and can be produced in any quantity.

Re: Get Real: no drug or vaccine will avoid a very big coronavirus epidemic

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Ctrl+F "remdesivir". No results in the article. Epic fail. There's really no cure for the Trump Derangement Syndrome, though.

No, he's not. Even if an antiviral like remdesivir would cure SARS-CoV-2, there's zero chance of it being produced in enough volume fast enough to keep everyone from dying, or even to treat a significant number of patients.

At best, antivirals will keep some of the worst infected patients from dying. The real problem is that there's no vaccine, and not likely to be one for a year or more. That's both because they take time to produce and because this particular type of virus is "good" at making the human immune system "forget" it.

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It is interesting to me that people are so laser focused on test kits and vaccines. In my less than humble opinion, people should focus on improving their immune system. You can reduce the load on your immune system by not eating sugar and reducing carbs as much as you can. We also know from history and science that every plague that killed people from respiratory virus infections was due to a lack of vitamin D3 and…

as someone on low-carb I find this interresting, but any studies behind it?

This was making the rounds a few days ago in my low carb FB group. I haven't looked into it too much, but it sounded intriguing.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191115190327.h...

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