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Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by wichert »

AllegedAlec wrote: post #66
philshem wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your answer. I posted my question to the open data stack exchange site[0]. If there isn't an existing dataset, maybe we can create one country by country. [0] https://opendata.stackexchange.com/q/16182/1511

Some data on the netherlands from 2014: https://www.scp.nl/dsresource?objectid=6185de0a-e909-4202-99...

Interesting - that data does not quite match my experience; I was expecting a larger percentage to have B or C level diplomas. I wonder if that is due to region (more water and lakes on the west and north), (ethnic) background or something else.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by amelius »

Jaruzel wrote: post #69
wycy wrote: post #20

It seems like spotting drowning children could be a good use case for computer vision, at least as a backup. The heuristics for a drowning child are pretty marked, but they're hard to spot for humans distracted by lots of other stimuli.

But who would you sue if the computer vision didn't spot your child drowning?

I suppose you sue the swimming pool for not taking proper measures. They can sue the device manufacturer, but this is not of your concern.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by _ph_ »

HenryBemis wrote: post #11

To all parents out there, it takes 10 seconds for a toddler to drown. Once in the water, if they go under, they tend to get disoriented and don't know where is up or down. When you are with your kids near a swimming pool or the sea, keep your eyes glued on them. My rule is "never break line of sight" (I borrowed the term from Assassin's Creed where if you break line of sights from the guards chasing you for a few sec…

If you are trying to keep the line of sight, never ever use a smartphone. Based from my own experience, it can easily completely distract you for 10-20 seconds or longer. Especially if you think you are "just" doing a quick thing. Then there is a notification dragging you off or something else.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by epx »

throwaway744678 wrote: post #54
HenryBemis wrote: post #11

To all parents out there, it takes 10 seconds for a toddler to drown. Once in the water, if they go under, they tend to get disoriented and don't know where is up or down. When you are with your kids near a swimming pool or the sea, keep your eyes glued on them. My rule is "never break line of sight" (I borrowed the term from Assassin's Creed where if you break line of sights from the guards chasing you for a few sec…

I can only strongly confirm this: last summer, my 2.5 years old boy fell in a (private) swimming pool while playing around it. Of the 4 adults that were around the pool (less than 3 meters away), only one saw him and could get him back safely. We could not hear a single noise, no cries, no water splashes... Although he was wearing those kids armbands, they were useless as they were keeping his head underwater (he fel…

Happened with me once and my kid was 8 or 9 already. 10 seconds not looking and he was already drowning on the deep part of the pool (where he was told not to go).

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by keanzu »

_ph_ wrote: post #89

I am impressed by these videos any time the pop up on hacker news. But one thing struck me: that they are using those large floatation rings. A lot of the incidents seem to be where a child looses contact to the ring and then cannot swim on itself. I am wondering, why they are allowed at all. In my personal experience, I have rarely seen such rings in public pools and that basically means, you are not getting far int…

Those are toys that are fun to play with for people who can swim fine. The problem is when non-swimmers use them as boats. They are not safety devices.

Without the rings non-swimmers couldn't get into trouble but swimmers have less fun. You could also pave over the pool with concrete and remove the hazard entirely - no fun for swimmers but all risks of drowning removed.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by de_Selby »

w-m wrote: post #16

The first one I got was #26 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuAfTA2wf7o ) and I find it quite hard to detect. Just next to the drowning child, there are a few others splashing around, which looks nearly identical. Could a machine make the distinction reliably? Also interesting to note that there are many people really close by who do not notice the drowning, but spring into action to help once the lifeguard jumped.

It's a bad angle, the lifeguard had a much better view. The lifeguard was actually quite slow to react to that one though.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by AllegedAlec »

wichert wrote: post #91
AllegedAlec wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some data on the netherlands from 2014: https://www.scp.nl/dsresource?objectid=6185de0a-e909-4202-99...

Interesting - that data does not quite match my experience; I was expecting a larger percentage to have B or C level diplomas. I wonder if that is due to region (more water and lakes on the west and north), (ethnic) background or something else.

Age and ethnic background, I think.

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by keanzu »

Hamuko wrote: post #79
xythum wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like this has already been done: https://swimeye.com/

But apparently only on the pool bottom.

Exactly, seems a bit late. Hasn't serious injury already occurred by the time a person is motionless on the bottom of the pool?

Re: Spot the Drowning Child (2015)

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Post by Ygg2 »

b0rsuk wrote: post #62
minimonk wrote: post #36

One of the important lessons I learnt from a lifeguard is that movies depict a very inaccurate representation of drowning. The movies would have you believe that drowning is a violent and noisy event when in reality it is an inconspicuous and silent event. The victim cannot shout or call for help when they are struggling to keep their nose above the water level. Another important lesson I learnt that sometimes when s…

Do you know a single movie which accurately shows drowning?

They had those in Baywatch, although they claimed to be caused by saltwater.

But overall their message was the same, post drowning, go to hospital.

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