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Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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I live 1 mile from Evergreen Hospital and 3 miles from the Life Care facility, and I'm immunocompromised. Most of my B lymphocytes and a bunch of my T helper cells are gone. In the past couple of days 7 immunocompromised people within walking distance of me were killed by this thing. I don't think I'm in hysteria, but I sure as hell am not leaving my house until I can be convinced that it's under control in my area.…

I looked for a news story about this. They don't seem to all be immunocompromised people? Maybe you have different information. https://www.kirklandreporter.com/news/coronavirus-death-toll...

They're all elderly---another part of the vulnerable population.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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This is a claim from the submitted article with no evidence: > In all likelihood, however, given the one-off infections that are being detected in disparate locations, thousands if not millions have already had mild or asymptomatic SARS-CoV2. An assistance director general and epidemiologist for the WHO, Bruce Aylward, makes the opposite argument in a recent Vox interview ( https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coron…

There is evidence of undetected transmission in Washington State: https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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No, Trump did not say the virus was a hoax, that was fake news.

> “This is their new hoax,” he said, referring to the coronavirus. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-i... Straight from the horses mouth. But I'm sure he was misquoted and taken out of context...

Not a trump fan, but I would say it is roughly equivalent to GW Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech, which is still shamelessly taken out of context.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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For the most part, I think we should trust people's instinct to secure resources for themselves in expectation of upcoming hard times. I live in Seattle. Due to the minimal testing that has occurred, we are just now learning of multiple cases which are being retroactively classified as Covid-19. These are from the very few that have actually been tested, which is a small proportion of those who showed severe enough symptoms to warrant testing.

Genomic analysis suggests that the virus has been spreading undetected in the community since January 15th https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/ This is from a virologist at Fred Hutch Cancer Institute who is part of a viral epidemiology study. If the virus doubles every 6 or 7 days as estimated, then... well, you're all good with your powers of 2, there are likely hundreds of cases already.

Every day there are new announcements of deaths from this disease just miles away, of new people showing symptoms, of people whose "flu" has been diagnosed after the fact as coronavirus. In a dense urban center like this with people crowded together on streets, in buses, in workplaces, I am working under the assumption that it is already in my neighborhood. I don't think that's unreasonable. The pharmacies in the area have been filling people's prescriptions for three months' worth without any prompting. They are planning for a long slog in which they want to keep people AWAY from the pharmacy as much as possible. The county has purchased a hotel to repurpose as a quarantine center, and is prepping portable isolation units. We've seen what a lackadaisical response brought Wuhan---it is not "hysteria" to work to avoid that same fate.

For the rest of the nation, I think it's eminently sensible to get a supply of nonperishible food, of prescriptions, of some fever reducer, etc. to last two weeks to a month. Get in the habit of washing your hands regularly, thoroughly according to CDC recommendations. Get in the habit of NOT TOUCHING YOUR FACE (it's very hard!) and all the usual stuff but actually applied. Be mindful of who in your family and community might be vulnerable, have respiratory conditions, be elderly, be in treatment for cancer, have an impaired immune system, etc., and make plans for how to protect them in the event of an outbreak in your community.

Those decrying "mass hysteria" do have a point---prudence can become paranoia, preparation can become panic. But mostly I think people should be encouraged rather than discouraged to prepare, because this will very likely be in your area soon.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Because the curve is almost not rising, even in linear form ( I thought it was logarithmic even before yesterday). The amount of casualties seem to be in control. Okay, Iran is acting stupid. But we don't even do business with them. Tourism is minimal. Hell, I'd even prefer to get it, so I'm over it ( 32 years old)

From what I can tell, this is largely because the testing is not in place in most parts of the world where this virus is likely spreading. Also, we largely do not have the capacity to test people, even if we had the infrastructure in place, because most people do not present with severe symptoms. In the US, it is increasingly obvious that there are more cases than are being tested/reported. More and more healthcare p…

One step further: hospitals are not prepared - at all - for this. Healthcare workers have been exposed within the last week at Harborview in Seattle, with a patient who later tested positive. Within the last week. This has been the global healthcare story for 2 months now, and major trauma centres are not treating all incoming respiratory patients as presumptive COVID-19.

Just insane.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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I don't know - a 15% mortality rate for 80+ year olds is pretty bad. Or do their lives not count? Or are we not responsible for trying to slow the spread?

80,000 Americans died of the flu last year. Are you worried about that? Most people aren't.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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What's going on with this comment? Why did someone else post the exact same thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ChibaCity_ ( https://imgur.com/a/XgSpxie )

As if there’s massive sock puppetting going on in every covid19 thread

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The outbreak in China is indeed somewhat (maybe even largely) under control. But if you look at the trend in cases outside China, the growth is still clearly exponential [0]. [0]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/...

Are you sure you looked correctly? Newly Infected vs. Newly Recovered is the one you want. Ps. I'm using the same site, you should check how much influence Iran has in your quick-check. Also South Korea and I wouldn't be suprised with North-Korea to popup either. It seems to be that the WHO had the correct actions for pandemics ( I was positively suprised when looking at the actual numbers). The cases in Europe are s…

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