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I think they just altered the DST start/end days, I remember it used to end before Halloween until too many kids got hit or killed by cars in the dark.
Georgia is putting DST on the ballot this November. Voters will have a choice to stay with DST, going to standard time year around, or asking Congress for permission to stay on DST year around. My guess is none of the options will receive a majority vote but year around DST will get the plurality. Since that requires Congressional approval and the ballot referendum is non-binding, nothing will change as a result. Hav…
Vote for no more adjustments, I don't care if that's UTC, nation wide 'Eastern', DST or not DST... just leave things the same all year. I've got a slight preference for everyone going UTC with no DST so that meetings and events are easier to schedule across the world. UTC would be great if it weren't for how everyone wants to think of E.G. 8AM or 9AM or whatever as a common start time and then uses DST to try and adj…
You mean people want to think about hours in a way that is useful to them where they live? Doesn't sound crazy.
If everyone moved to UTC you wouldn't solve any real problems. Sure, everyone in New York could get used to their day starting at noon or whatever (to what benefit?) but if you wanted to schedule a meeting with someone in spain (or california) you would still have to figure out the time change to make it a reasonable time for you both.
Any way you slice it, you're just pushing the problem around to different places.
"2-DST" is permanent daylight savings, except we additionally set the clocks an hour forward for the winter (just like we do now, in March).
More opportunity for sunlight. More outdoor activity in the evenings. Less electricity. Less crime. Better for most businesses and most people.
I recognize that my position is uncommon, but I am in favor of what I call "2-DST" (two minus DST), a position which recognizes that DST is fundamentally backwards . Fewer daylight hours in the winter means we should turn the clocks forward in the winter , not the summer! "2-DST" is permanent daylight savings, except we additionally set the clocks an hour forward for the winter (just like we do now, in March). More o…
Must be a US thing, what with all its timezones. China has a single timezone, and doesn't observe DST. Do you think that means people in the extreme west of china have to wake up at the exact same time as people in Beijing?
In fact, according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Time), the Xinjiang region of China has two timezones used concurrently. I guess people just wake up twice: Once at 7am, and again at 7am two hours later :)
Anyway my point is, you could have the US go on a single timezone and stop observing DST. Ok, well, you don't have to open your business at 8am across the country… if your new TZ is based on Austin TX, you just open at 8am in Austin, 7am in NYC and 10am in LA.
Want to give your employees more daylight in winter? Shift business hours by an hour.
Georgia is putting DST on the ballot this November. Voters will have a choice to stay with DST, going to standard time year around, or asking Congress for permission to stay on DST year around. My guess is none of the options will receive a majority vote but year around DST will get the plurality. Since that requires Congressional approval and the ballot referendum is non-binding, nothing will change as a result. Hav…
At least Georgia is far enough south that year around DST might not have any serious negatives. There are people trying to do that here in Washington which is far enough north that it has serious negatives.
Year around DST would put sunrise in the middle of winter at nearly 9 AM at Seattle's latitude, putting nearly everyone's morning commute deep in the dark.
Without DST in the winter, of course, the commute home is in the dark, but I'd argue that this is better for three reasons.
1. Evening dark is generally warmer than morning dark. There is less chance of ice on the roads. It will have been melted by sun or rain during the day, and won't reform until it gets cold again in the early morning.
2. The evening commute tends to be more spread out than the morning commute. Putting the morning commute in the dark combines the worst conditions with the highest density. Putting the evening commute in the dark instead combines the worst lighting with lower density so is probably safer.
3. The morning commute overlaps with children going to school. The evening commute is mostly after children are home.
Sunrise at 9 AM is also bad for our sleep cycles. Our cycles sync to sunrise. The earlier we have to get up relative to sunrise the less healthy it is. (This could be fixed under year round DST by having businesses open/close later in winter, so our commutes happen later, but then we are essentially where we are now except we do it by changing schedules twice a year instead of changing clocks).
Furthermore, in the middle of winter here DST would not really actually get you much, if any, extra usable daylight after work. By the time you get home and have dinner, it is still going to be getting dark. Feb 1 sunset this year was at 5:10 PM, for example. Year around DST would make that 6:10 PM.
I'm a fan of changing the clocks twice a year for the reasons nicely laid out in this article: http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/03/why-i-like-dst/ >If we stayed on Standard Time throughout the year, sunrise here in the Chicago area would be between 4:15 and 4:30 am from the middle of May through the middle of July. And if you check the times for civil twilight, which is when it’s bright enough to see without art…
Georgia is putting DST on the ballot this November. Voters will have a choice to stay with DST, going to standard time year around, or asking Congress for permission to stay on DST year around. My guess is none of the options will receive a majority vote but year around DST will get the plurality. Since that requires Congressional approval and the ballot referendum is non-binding, nothing will change as a result. Hav…
Are you absolutely sure people aren't having a lend of you? Or that there's a translation problem -- that they're insisting that it 'creates' an hour of sunlight during the part of the day that's most useful for them? (Implicitly acknowledging they lose that at the other end.) If it's not these, then I weep. People's view of how the world (and moon) fits within the solar system must be severely broken.
These are people who don't build facts from bottom up but rather support their version of facts based on intuition and desire. Though we all do this to a degree, some will change if confronted with solid evidence but many simply will forever stick with what they feel is true, including that changing the clocks creates an additional hour of sunlight. Even pointing out that it is not as light when they get up Sunday morning after the clock change as it was at the same time the day before, they don't care because they know in the summer it is bright at that time in the morning. The tilt of the Earth on its axis is as fantasy to them as the flat Earth is to the rest of us.
It's funny how the majority of people can't get politicians to undo DST for decades now. Makes the tiny change in healthcare for some look like a major miracle. I think they just altered the DST start/end days, I remember it used to end before Halloween until too many kids got hit or killed by cars in the dark.
I recognize that my position is uncommon, but I am in favor of what I call "2-DST" (two minus DST), a position which recognizes that DST is fundamentally backwards . Fewer daylight hours in the winter means we should turn the clocks forward in the winter , not the summer! "2-DST" is permanent daylight savings, except we additionally set the clocks an hour forward for the winter (just like we do now, in March). More o…
I always find these arguments kind of weird. Whether we turn or stop turning the clocks forwards/backwards doesn't mean we have to keep business hours the exact same, or even keep them static. Must be a US thing, what with all its timezones. China has a single timezone, and doesn't observe DST. Do you think that means people in the extreme west of china have to wake up at the exact same time as people in Beijing? In…