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The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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Re: The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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tl;dr: analyzing the sound of a balloon popping in Hagia Sophia, they made an audio filter using techniques and understanding of sound in space that only became available in last 10 years. Cappella Romana made an album called Lost Voices of Hagia Sophia using this filter to recreate the experience of listening to Christian chants in that space. It's available on Spotify, headphones probably best.

> they made an audio filter using techniques and understanding of sound in space that only became available in last 10 years. This is an old technique. The idea of convolving the impulse response of a system with an input to yield the output is the basis of LTI systems theory. And while convolution isn't the most computationally light operation in the world, computers have been up to the task of practically performin…

Offline audio-rate convolution (particularly with shorter impulse responses) has been plausible for a while, but real-time convolution reverb has definitely come into its own over the last ten or fifteen years. Overlap-adding blocks of audio that have been processed in the frequency domain with a low enough latency so as to feel instantaneous is a more recent capability that likely had an influence on this work.

I think the reason they used balloon pops was because that was all they were allowed to use: many heritage or archaeological sites can be nervous about researchers bringing in large loudspeakers and amplifiers, whereas a portable recorder and a bag of balloons can feel a little more harmless. Most acoustics researchers are aware of and use those new techniques whenever it's possible!

Re: The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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This was beautiful to listen to. By pure luck (should have done more reading), I was visiting Pisa in Italy. There's a building (the baptistry) _beside_ the leaning tower, which has the most perfect acoustics. Every hour, they close the doors and a person sings a series of individual notes which then interact just _beautifully_ in the building. Hard to describe. There's a soundcloud[1] here, not mine, stars properly…

If you're interested, researchers from the University of Bologna have been working on virtual acoustic models of that space in its current form [0] as well as past configurations [1] that you might be able to look into. It is truly huge reverberation! And thus, pretty difficult to simulate.

[0] https://doi.org/10.1080/19401493.2020.1728382 [1] http://pub.dega-akustik.de/ICA2019/data/articles/000682.pdf

Re: The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last Orthodox church services were in 1453. So I doubt that there will be many critics who remember back that far :)

Actually, there was an (incredibly unauthorized) service held in 1919 during the Allied occupation of the city: https://greece.greekreporter.com/2019/09/26/the-brave-greek-...

What an amazing story! Thanks for sharing that.

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The album of Capella Romana is on Spotify for whoever's interested: https://open.spotify.com/album/5iB2tDdXCTaV2PMlcgNYdA?si=X_k... This will be my background music for weeks now :D

Here's the Apple Music link as well: https://music.apple.com/us/album/lost-voices-of-hagia-sophia...

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Just listening to the balloon pop in the Hagia Sophia was amazing to hear. Are there any other structures with similar acoustics that still holds performances? Also there's a YouTube playlist of the recording they mention at the end, the Lost Voices of Hagia Sophia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VrJ8XOwJzw&list=OLAK5uy_k98...

I don't know if it qualifies as a structure since it's open, but the ancient theatre of Epidaurus is renowned for its acoustics and is still operational to this day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Theatre_of_Epidaurus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last Orthodox church services were in 1453. So I doubt that there will be many critics who remember back that far :)

Actually, there was an (incredibly unauthorized) service held in 1919 during the Allied occupation of the city: https://greece.greekreporter.com/2019/09/26/the-brave-greek-...

Great story.

Re: The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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> Now imagine - it's the early 13th century. You're sitting inside the Hagia Sophia. Marble pillars rise up around you. Dusty light filters into the windows in the massive dome above.

The Hagia Sophia was also a great tool for the Byzantine Emperors to convert other leaders to Orthodox Christianity. There are stories of various leaders being so overcome by the experience of a mass in the Hagia Sophia that they embraced Orthodox Christianity and became allies of the emperor.

Re: The sound of the Hagia Sophia, more than 500 years ago

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> Now imagine - it's the early 13th century. You're sitting inside the Hagia Sophia. Marble pillars rise up around you. Dusty light filters into the windows in the massive dome above. The Hagia Sophia was also a great tool for the Byzantine Emperors to convert other leaders to Orthodox Christianity. There are stories of various leaders being so overcome by the experience of a mass in the Hagia Sophia that they embrac…

That basically works like the concept of "culture" in the Civilization video games. If you have more "culture" you gain all sorts of upper hands over the other players.

(I know the comparison is rather silly)

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The next step (that will probably never happen) would be to refurnish the Hagia Sophia, as it would have been before it was plundered in the fourth crusade, and seat an audience in it, as if for a mass. Then pop another balloon. All those extra furnishings and bodies would have had a significant impact on how the space sounded. The plastered over mosaics might also create a noticeable effect that would need to be com…

Interesting how you managed to mention that the fourth crusade is somehow stopping us from doing this, instead of today's reality of the church being a mosque and Muslim clerics forbidding any Christian liturgies inside of it.
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