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Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by nscalf »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #6
m23khan wrote: post #4

I will counter: How can you not feel bit of panic when you see coronavirus cases being reported daily from all parts of the World where travel is common or where there is large population? Then you have excellent leadership in Iran which knowingly hides their coronavirus situation and thus have exported the virus to poor and incapable places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq? Heck, compared to Iran, even Pakistan is b…

Because the curve is almost not rising, even in linear form ( I thought it was logarithmic even before yesterday). The amount of casualties seem to be in control. Okay, Iran is acting stupid. But we don't even do business with them. Tourism is minimal. Hell, I'd even prefer to get it, so I'm over it ( 32 years old)

From what I can tell, this is largely because the testing is not in place in most parts of the world where this virus is likely spreading. Also, we largely do not have the capacity to test people, even if we had the infrastructure in place, because most people do not present with severe symptoms.

In the US, it is increasingly obvious that there are more cases than are being tested/reported. More and more healthcare professionals are reporting individuals with severe flu symptoms either not being tested for anything, or testing negative for Influenza. Proper quarantine is not being implemented to or from the US, so the subset of people who are infected but not confirmed can still travel and spread this disease.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by calvinbhai »

For me, the critical pieces of info everyone should consider are these:

1) Washing hands often, significantly reduces chances of getting infected (because virus has a fat membrane that breaks when in contact with soap)

2) If you are under 60 yrs old, covid-19 infection becoming fatal is extremely low, which in turn means, keep older population away from anyone carrying this virus, hence self-quarantine around elders is extremely important.

3) Wear mask only if infected.

4) The virus doesn't last long on dry surfaces, hot weather (bumped up the heat in house by a few degrees, yet comfortable enough).

5) I try to eat cooked foods (no salads, no cold foods). This should further reduce the chances of getting infected

6) Follow less frequent yet more reliable sources of news (this is the hardest to achieve for most people).

(correct me if I'm wrong, or add more to it if needed)

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by luxuryballs »

bjourne wrote: post #46
beamatronic wrote: post #16

Anecdotally, I see attitudes among friends and family towards Coronavirus split along the same lines as whether they support or despise Trump.

But didn't Trump say it was an hoax? If so, are the Trump supporters the ones that are least worried?

No, Trump did not say the virus was a hoax, that was fake news.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by bootlooped »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #5

Mass hysteria ? I don't think that's the case, people are carefull, but don't seem to be scared. ( Belgium)

I would consider mass hysteria to be people duct taping their windows, standing in long lines outside of stores to try to get masks / hand sanitizer each morning, most people wearing masks all the time. I barely see 1 or 2 people with masks on on the subway every morning. I agree we are not at the point of "mass hysteria" right now.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by titanomachy »

calvinbhai wrote: post #62

For me, the critical pieces of info everyone should consider are these: 1) Washing hands often, significantly reduces chances of getting infected (because virus has a fat membrane that breaks when in contact with soap) 2) If you are under 60 yrs old, covid-19 infection becoming fatal is extremely low, which in turn means, keep older population away from anyone carrying this virus, hence self-quarantine around elders…

> 4) The virus doesn't last long on dry surfaces, hot weather (bumped up the heat in house by a few degrees, yet comfortable enough).

What's your source for this? What temperature is required to see this effect? How sure are you that your house is hot enough?

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by Loughla »

skybrian wrote: post #40

This might be a case of excessively binary thinking? Stocking up on things you normally use is not panic buying, it's a sensible no-regrets precaution. But it tends to get called "hoarding" anyway. Buying stuff you don't normally use can also be sensible. Consider putting together an earthquake kit in California. Unfortunately, having a pandemic kit ready isn't something most people do, but maybe it should be? There…

>someone can ship you something when it's time.

The issue with 'prepping' as a lifestyle, the lifestyle you are wanting to sell with this idea, is that it's about prepping for the unknown. You're preparing for the worst disaster before it happens.

In that case, the idea of course is that regular routes to receive goods, like shipping, are off-line.

>Usually there is advance notice for a pandemic

Where'd you come up with that?

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by _bxg1 »

cryoshon wrote: post #38

i think this article misses the mark. consider that the preliminary WHO incident report regarding the chinese response to the outbreak in wuhan essentially said that the radical and severe measures taken by the chinese government were the only thing which allowed for some semblance of control over the course of weeks. if we assume that the chinese are not fabricating their numbers, it's not much of a relief for us be…

You also have to consider that population density in China is dramatically higher than in most of the US. For this virus in particular, that makes a big difference.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by hellofunk »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #52
Apocryphon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a 0.2% rate. Nothing to welcome, sure, but also not something worth defeatism.

From where are you drawing that rate? I was speaking of Dr. Li Wenliang, aged 33, who was one of the initial 8 doctors to raise the alarm and try to stop this epidemic in Wuhan months ago. From everything I've read, both in Chinese and English, considerably more than 1% of the medical personnel at the front lines have perished.

I have read that the amount of exposure can be quantified, and it is possible to have a heavy dose of the virus -- which makes no sense to me -- and that healthcare workers are likely to receive these heavy doses due to frequent exposure.

I always thought that once a virus was present in your system, it was there, like a boolean, not like a degree of infection. But apparently that is not true.

Re: Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is

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Post by meristem »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #6
m23khan wrote: post #4

I will counter: How can you not feel bit of panic when you see coronavirus cases being reported daily from all parts of the World where travel is common or where there is large population? Then you have excellent leadership in Iran which knowingly hides their coronavirus situation and thus have exported the virus to poor and incapable places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq? Heck, compared to Iran, even Pakistan is b…

Because the curve is almost not rising, even in linear form ( I thought it was logarithmic even before yesterday). The amount of casualties seem to be in control. Okay, Iran is acting stupid. But we don't even do business with them. Tourism is minimal. Hell, I'd even prefer to get it, so I'm over it ( 32 years old)

Is your assumption that getting Sick now will make you immune to SARS-CoV-2 virus long term?
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